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Old 06-04-2019 | 07:40 AM
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thanks for all the inputs so much options here it's amazing. I'm 5' 7" 36-38 waist 180 lbs mostly dad bod, lol
we'll see when I get her back from the detailer she'll see a lot of activities in the Schattenbaum chapter (Battleship NJ, Lobster run, Appraisal night,Radwood, etc...)
Old 06-04-2019 | 09:34 AM
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I have Pole Positions, 6' 1", 36" waist and 200 lbs and feel they are reasonably comfortable depending on how you position them and if you fit, I've driven 300 miles to California and back several times with no back issues.

The ideal seat IMO is the Speedster seats since they look the part but are suspension shells with a trampoline in the bottom so they are a little more compliant. Almost a combo of a sport seat and racing shell.
Old 06-04-2019 | 10:14 AM
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^ I just spent 4-5 hours in a factory recaro a few months ago racing around San Diego mountains. I am 5' 8" 195lbs and broad shouldered. it was a perfect fit and the support to your body was one of best from that era.

If you are doing it to keep the car period correct then its a no brainer.. Otherwise, its like outfitting your wife in a YSL dress and pairing it with Payless Shoes.
Old 06-04-2019 | 11:55 PM
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We'll see I'll make sure she'll get something decent and comfy for the long haul
Old 06-05-2019 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by chsu74
If you are doing it to keep the car period correct then its a no brainer.. Otherwise, its like outfitting your wife in a YSL dress and pairing it with Payless Shoes.
As an FYI, Recaro made the Porsche RS/Speedster seats for Porsche as the OEM manufacturer and supplier. There is zero difference between Pole Positions and the RS/Speedster seats. Recaro is recognized worldwide for making the best racing seats that money can buy. Not at all like what you’re implying.
Old 06-05-2019 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 2swoosh
We'll see I'll make sure she'll get something decent and comfy for the long haul
You can add extra padding in the bottom seat cushion of Pole Position seats to make them more comfortable for longer drives. Try contacting Recaro to discuss.
Old 06-05-2019 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Vegas993
I have Pole Positions, 6' 1", 36" waist and 200 lbs and feel they are reasonably comfortable depending on how you position them and if you fit, I've driven 300 miles to California and back several times with no back issues.

The ideal seat IMO is the Speedster seats since they look the part but are suspension shells with a trampoline in the bottom so they are a little more compliant. Almost a combo of a sport seat and racing shell.
The key determinant to whether Pole Positions will work for you is your waist size and shoulder size (suit jacket size), as they are relatively narrow seats
and have high side bolsters. Size 38 waist and 44 jacket size is about the maximum. If you’re bigger, it’s best to go with the XL SPG seats.
Old 06-05-2019 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by JJJMCD
As an FYI, Recaro made the Porsche RS/Speedster seats for Porsche as the OEM manufacturer and supplier. There is zero difference between Pole Positions and the RS/Speedster seats. Recaro is recognized worldwide for making the best racing seats that money can buy. Not at all like what you’re implying.
If you are in the position of restoring a cup car today like OP and there is an opportunity to assemble Porsche OEM parts, albeit at a hefty premium, your recommendation is to cheap out on seats? Like buying tramont wheels instead of Speedlines?
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If you are in the position of restoring a cup car today like OP and there is an opportunity to assemble Porsche OEM parts, albeit at a hefty premium, your recommendation is to cheap out on seats? Like buying tramont wheels instead of Speedlines?
You are missing the point. Buying OEM supplier Recaro seats is NOT “cheaping out”. They are the exact same seats, made by the exact same manufacturer in the exact same factory.
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They are not the exact same seats. Discussed at length if one cares to search.

similar? Yes. Exactly the same, no.
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Minor detail differences. The new Pole Positions are likely better seats, since they have benefited from 30 years of additional development by Recaro.
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Originally Posted by wolfgang1
They are not the exact same seats. Discussed at length if one cares to search.

similar? Yes. Exactly the same, no.
Yup, RS Recaros are slightly narrower than PP but wider than SPG I think. Cups cars run SPG's don't they ?
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Here is a post that explains some of the subtle differences. functionally, SPG is an inch narrower at the hip than the speedster/rs and the pole position is an inch wider at the hip. There are a bunch of other details which could be considered cosmetic...

No denying that the PP are way cheaper and given that they are manufactured today, they do benefit from modern manufacturing techniques and current designs.

In my opinion, a carrera cup USA car is very special and if the money is available, making it period correct is the way to go. I don't think it is financially reckless at all because the value of making it "right" will always stay with the car.



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Old 06-05-2019 | 10:39 AM
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You can put what ever seat you want for comfort to drive car, you want a correct set of seats for car when you go to sell. I think Mr Swoosh gets it.

Phil
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The other difference with the OEM Recaros is the web pattern on the back of the shell. Standard Recaros have smooth backs.


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