reno808

You need a bigger t-body. Looks a like bottle neck. Is that reg anti-freeze? I would also upgrade the oil cooler as well.

JBrown

What ever anti freeze he put in it !! And I was told stock TB out flows the head all day it's still only an 8v.. And yes that is my plan add an oil cooler or a bigger one !

reno808

Is the head stock?

JBrown

No has Alberts cam.. Also ported and bigger intake valves 49mm

V2Rocket

Shawn (refresh951) got a pretty significant gain by swapping up to a Ford 4.6L TB, which is 65mm vs stock 55.

look how much the curve smoothed up with the larger tb..

JBrown

Yes very nice curve ! I will have the car next week and I will show I my ignition maps and such also like I said will do the meth kit. And some other mods ! This motor should breath fire !!

V2Rocket

Also, I think that dyno with the Mustang TB was on the stock intake manifold too.

Auto_Werks 3.6

hahahahahaha you and albert deserve each other.

How did you not at least discuss the target output BEFORE agreeing to deal?

And I believe a standard day is 15'C or 59'F... so that is possibly hurting your pull in FL

JBrown

He told me 450 easy shy of 500 wheel if he told me I would only get 400 I would of never did it


I spent very pretty penny on this motor and it should perform !

docwyte

Oh god. Please stop with all the arm chair quarterbacking. Devon, do you want to *drive* this car or do you want to just continually spend money on it trying to fix what's "wrong"?

There's nothing (!!) "wrong" with the performance. It's just a NUMBER on a piece of paper! Get the car home. DRIVE IT AS IS FOR A LONG TIME, then, if you're still somehow unhappy with the performance, spend more money on it.

Honestly you're falling into a very deep hole here. DO NOT FOLLOW THE RABBIT DOWN THE HOLE!

JBrown

I have every right to be disappointed with the power out put of this motor when some one says it will be a 500whp or just shy of it and I nearly brake 400...

And yes a number is just a number your 100 percent right

wwhalenc

I agree. He was sold one setup and received something different. At this level of investment I think he has the right to disgruntled. Tuners should strive to make it better on their dime.

jmj951

A number is just a number when you're just curious what it does, but the more money involved, the more important that number is. Numbers are everything when justifying the sale price of a car or the cost of performance improvement. I don't think we should be downplaying the significance of the number.

I don't know exactly how the planning conversations for this build went, but based on what the OP wrote it probably had a lot to do with a peak number, specifically with beating 450rwhp, which is probably why that crazy intake was included.

JBrown

Even if it fell short of the goal thats no big deal but just about 100hp short ?

pole position

So much fail in this thread from dyno racers,let me ask you how many races have you won on the dyno?
Second,you ain't making 500 real world whp on pump, ever, unless you are running E85 or 110 you are going to be sh*t out of luck