Did Porsche detuned the 951? Or it was fate? Article inside
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_924
My point was that maintained cars are not selling for 4k. I bought well maintained totalled 89 952 from uk for 5k₤ and it looked like this:
Porsche was contracted to develop a new sporting vehicle with the caveat that this vehicle must work with an existing VW/Audi I4 engine. Porsche chose a rear wheel drive layout and a rear-mounted transaxle for the design to help provide 48/52 front/rear weight distribution; this slight rear weight bias aided both traction and brake balance.
Porsche, which needed a model to replace the 914, made a deal with Volkswagen leadership to buy the design back.
My point was that maintained cars are not selling for 4k. I bought well maintained totalled 89 952 from uk for 5k₤ and it looked like this:
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I know it looks bad, but it's amazing how well these cars hold together when hit by
speeding telephone poles, Cherokee's, 747s, etc..... especially in a head on impact.
long live the t t.
speeding telephone poles, Cherokee's, 747s, etc..... especially in a head on impact.
long live the t t.
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This one spin at highway, broke the fence and hit multiple trees from different angles, the most severe impact was at the right drivers side(rhd car). He walked away without a scratch.
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nice video! the 850/70 series Volvo's are one of the best 'autobahn' cars out there, supremely accurate/easy to drive at silly speeds, don't have the balance of the RWD Volvo's but can still be quick track cars...miss my 850T5 stick...
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Disagree, bought my first,well-maintained 951 for $4500 a few years back. Mind you this is in Canada but 951's do not pull any real value here, makes them great tuner cars...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_924
My point was that maintained cars are not selling for 4k. I bought well maintained totalled 89 952 from uk for 5k₤ and it looked like this:
![](http://s9.mojalbum.com/599159_8084992_9380249/abc/9380249.jpg)
My point was that maintained cars are not selling for 4k. I bought well maintained totalled 89 952 from uk for 5k₤ and it looked like this:
![](http://s9.mojalbum.com/599159_8084992_9380249/abc/9380249.jpg)
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Nice looking 951!
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Thanks! Many fun times in it
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Here in slovenia good NA 944 will cost you 15.000€ (~$20.000).
Great britain has a lot of junk cars for ~5000 pounds. Well maintained turbos are, or atleast were when I was buying them (6years ago) in the 10 to 20k range.
Your turbo looks mint, good deal
I would buy it for $5k in a heartbeat.
Great britain has a lot of junk cars for ~5000 pounds. Well maintained turbos are, or atleast were when I was buying them (6years ago) in the 10 to 20k range.
Your turbo looks mint, good deal
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I bought my 88T/S 3 years ago had been in a small accident by my lawyer who got it because she wanted a Porsche one of her other clients had it so she bought it from him took it home
her boyfriend saw it and then crashed it 3 hours later guess what he owned a tiptronic 911
and because her ins. co refused to pay I got 34k mile car damaged for less then a set of BBS lms
I have turned down offer of 15k from many 930 owners after I gave them a real drive
her boyfriend saw it and then crashed it 3 hours later guess what he owned a tiptronic 911
and because her ins. co refused to pay I got 34k mile car damaged for less then a set of BBS lms
I have turned down offer of 15k from many 930 owners after I gave them a real drive
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My 944 Turbo: Bilstein Cup kit, Welt sways, M-Tune, T04E at 13psi, on Yokohama Advan Neova AD08s (180 treadwear)
vs....
A fairly stock 930 (updated shocks for sure, not sure if he's running coils or the original torsion bars) on Hoosier's
This pic tells the story from this past weekend at Road America.
We were actually fairly equal down the straights. I got him in the corners (and BIG time through the carousel...)
(Disclosure, the 930 driver was a SUPER cool and nice guy, and his car is beautiful... it sounds awesome for a stock car with lots of turbo warble out the exhaust...)
vs....
A fairly stock 930 (updated shocks for sure, not sure if he's running coils or the original torsion bars) on Hoosier's
This pic tells the story from this past weekend at Road America.
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(Disclosure, the 930 driver was a SUPER cool and nice guy, and his car is beautiful... it sounds awesome for a stock car with lots of turbo warble out the exhaust...)
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You're a bit behind the times, junk/scrappers are £2-3k that's $3-5k US. Good turbo's aren't for sale that often as owners would rather keep them than take $10-17k US.
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it's a funny thing Lart,
as bad a design as the 911 is, the 986/987/Cayman is quite good.
near 50/50, no drive shaft, short exhaust.
I'd like to see 2~3 more inches between the back of the seats and the firewall,
but the cars are still good for women under 5' 9".
now, all they need to do is get Nissan on the line to build them an engine.
as bad a design as the 911 is, the 986/987/Cayman is quite good.
near 50/50, no drive shaft, short exhaust.
I'd like to see 2~3 more inches between the back of the seats and the firewall,
but the cars are still good for women under 5' 9".
now, all they need to do is get Nissan on the line to build them an engine.
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yeah, it looks like you are blocking him in the corners!
Just kidding.
Having 'been there' I do find it funny when folks post DE track pictures. Since the lead car has to give a point by in order for the following car to pass it usually means that if there is a car behind you then you are holding them up!
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Having 'been there' I do find it funny when folks post DE track pictures. Since the lead car has to give a point by in order for the following car to pass it usually means that if there is a car behind you then you are holding them up!
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Here is one of my all time favorite bad assumptions.
Why is the 911 layout bad? a lot of folks bitch about the rear weight bias - so lets look at that.
on the track the weight balance changes depending on what you are doing.
Braking Hard - this transfers weight to the front of the car - so the weight balance of a 50/50 car gets worse under braking. That's why typical cars (like out 944s) have bigger brakes in the front. 911s end up with much better weight balance under hard braking - have you noticed that they have similar sized brakes on the front and rear compared to the 944?
Accelerating - you want as much weight on the traction wheels as possible...score another one for the 'bad design'. A well set up 911 can really accelerate out of the corners. Old school 911s will lift an inside front wheel while accelerating out of a corner because they hook up so well....try that in a 944! - I only wish I could get that kind of traction!
And that just leaves 'static' weight balance. when you are driving hard at the track you are either on the gas or the brake. Static weight balance is achieved only in the garage!
The 50/50 weight balance is a just a stat that car mags like to talk about...and we all know they don't know how to drive!
Why is the 911 layout bad? a lot of folks bitch about the rear weight bias - so lets look at that.
on the track the weight balance changes depending on what you are doing.
Braking Hard - this transfers weight to the front of the car - so the weight balance of a 50/50 car gets worse under braking. That's why typical cars (like out 944s) have bigger brakes in the front. 911s end up with much better weight balance under hard braking - have you noticed that they have similar sized brakes on the front and rear compared to the 944?
Accelerating - you want as much weight on the traction wheels as possible...score another one for the 'bad design'. A well set up 911 can really accelerate out of the corners. Old school 911s will lift an inside front wheel while accelerating out of a corner because they hook up so well....try that in a 944! - I only wish I could get that kind of traction!
And that just leaves 'static' weight balance. when you are driving hard at the track you are either on the gas or the brake. Static weight balance is achieved only in the garage!
The 50/50 weight balance is a just a stat that car mags like to talk about...and we all know they don't know how to drive!