951 V8 with Boxter 986/911 996 ABS ----- DONE :-)
#166
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*** For those of you looking to get a harness done (that don't want to do it yourself...) ***
My new car is at Jordon Innovations in Irwindale CA getting wired. This includes the Bosch ABS pump. Jeff (Jeff Jordon) does full mil-spec wiring and can make you guys a harness to drop in.
Now would be a good time for those interested as my car is still there which would allow him to take the necessary measurements.
Contact Jeff at (626) 472-6360
TonyG
My new car is at Jordon Innovations in Irwindale CA getting wired. This includes the Bosch ABS pump. Jeff (Jeff Jordon) does full mil-spec wiring and can make you guys a harness to drop in.
Now would be a good time for those interested as my car is still there which would allow him to take the necessary measurements.
Contact Jeff at (626) 472-6360
TonyG
#167
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I'm reviving this thread again now as I'm looking into making a harness.
Pin 15 in the above diagram looks wrong. Pin 15 according to the 996 wiring goes to a fused 12v+.
OBD:
The only wire to the OBD is pin 11. Pin 19 goes to electronics ground.
Looking at wiring the OBD it seems pin 11 goes to a big junction with alarm, airbags etc and then forward with a single wire to pin 3 on the OBD diagnosis plug.
I'm not sure if I should wire in a OBD plug or not. Might be good and can simply future maintenance.
As nothing else will be connected to the diagnosis I figure I only need to wire ABS pin 11 to OBD pin 3 and then 12v+ to OBD pin 4 and ground to pin 5.
Can anyone confirm?
Also, the stoplight switch, is it a ground signal or 12v+?
Pin 15 in the above diagram looks wrong. Pin 15 according to the 996 wiring goes to a fused 12v+.
OBD:
The only wire to the OBD is pin 11. Pin 19 goes to electronics ground.
Looking at wiring the OBD it seems pin 11 goes to a big junction with alarm, airbags etc and then forward with a single wire to pin 3 on the OBD diagnosis plug.
I'm not sure if I should wire in a OBD plug or not. Might be good and can simply future maintenance.
As nothing else will be connected to the diagnosis I figure I only need to wire ABS pin 11 to OBD pin 3 and then 12v+ to OBD pin 4 and ground to pin 5.
Can anyone confirm?
Also, the stoplight switch, is it a ground signal or 12v+?
#168
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I'm reviving this thread again now as I'm looking into making a harness.
Pin 15 in the above diagram looks wrong. Pin 15 according to the 996 wiring goes to a fused 12v+.
OBD:
The only wire to the OBD is pin 11. Pin 19 goes to electronics ground.
Looking at wiring the OBD it seems pin 11 goes to a big junction with alarm, airbags etc and then forward with a single wire to pin 3 on the OBD diagnosis plug.
I'm not sure if I should wire in a OBD plug or not. Might be good and can simply future maintenance.
As nothing else will be connected to the diagnosis I figure I only need to wire ABS pin 11 to OBD pin 3 and then 12v+ to OBD pin 4 and ground to pin 5.
Can anyone confirm?
Also, the stoplight switch, is it a ground signal or 12v+?
Pin 15 in the above diagram looks wrong. Pin 15 according to the 996 wiring goes to a fused 12v+.
OBD:
The only wire to the OBD is pin 11. Pin 19 goes to electronics ground.
Looking at wiring the OBD it seems pin 11 goes to a big junction with alarm, airbags etc and then forward with a single wire to pin 3 on the OBD diagnosis plug.
I'm not sure if I should wire in a OBD plug or not. Might be good and can simply future maintenance.
As nothing else will be connected to the diagnosis I figure I only need to wire ABS pin 11 to OBD pin 3 and then 12v+ to OBD pin 4 and ground to pin 5.
Can anyone confirm?
Also, the stoplight switch, is it a ground signal or 12v+?
http://www.cannell.co.uk/Boxster_Man...%20To%2045.pdf
Pin 15 should be fused 12V. I connected Pin 14 (stop light) to the stop light switch of the 968 ABS harness.
Pin 11 is signal line to the ODB plug. I wired in a an ODB plug but have never actually checked that it works. I have not had a single ABS issue in the year I have been using the 996 ABS (21 races).
#169
Nordschleife Master
The diagram on page 45 D-16 was correct for the 996 pump I used:
http://www.cannell.co.uk/Boxster_Man...%20To%2045.pdf
Pin 15 should be fused 12V. I connected Pin 14 (stop light) to the stop light switch of the 968 ABS harness.
Pin 11 is signal line to the ODB plug. I wired in a an ODB plug but have never actually checked that it works. I have not had a single ABS issue in the year I have been using the 996 ABS (21 races).
http://www.cannell.co.uk/Boxster_Man...%20To%2045.pdf
Pin 15 should be fused 12V. I connected Pin 14 (stop light) to the stop light switch of the 968 ABS harness.
Pin 11 is signal line to the ODB plug. I wired in a an ODB plug but have never actually checked that it works. I have not had a single ABS issue in the year I have been using the 996 ABS (21 races).
Do you know if the 968 stop light switch is negative or positive?
Do you remember how you wired in the ODB plug?
#170
*** For those of you looking to get a harness done (that don't want to do it yourself...) ***
My new car is at Jordon Innovations in Irwindale CA getting wired. This includes the Bosch ABS pump. Jeff (Jeff Jordon) does full mil-spec wiring and can make you guys a harness to drop in.
Now would be a good time for those interested as my car is still there which would allow him to take the necessary measurements.
Contact Jeff at (626) 472-6360
TonyG
My new car is at Jordon Innovations in Irwindale CA getting wired. This includes the Bosch ABS pump. Jeff (Jeff Jordon) does full mil-spec wiring and can make you guys a harness to drop in.
Now would be a good time for those interested as my car is still there which would allow him to take the necessary measurements.
Contact Jeff at (626) 472-6360
TonyG
Do you know if Jeff would be willing to make up a harness to put the pump in the stock ABS location? As I recall yours is in the center tunnel.
Thanks,
Richard
#171
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I wired ABS pin 11 to pin7 of the ODBII plug (k-line). ODBII pin 4 is ground and ODBII pin16 is unswitched 12V. But again I have never verified the diagnostics actually works.
#172
Nordschleife Master
Thanks. I found this female plug that have those pins pre-wired.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OBD2-OBDII-F...-/261244531867
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OBD2-OBDII-F...-/261244531867
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Tony,
What rear brake proportioning valve did you use with this setup and the Big Reds? Right now I have an adjustable Tilton one, but I don't think it's supposed to be used with ABS...
What rear brake proportioning valve did you use with this setup and the Big Reds? Right now I have an adjustable Tilton one, but I don't think it's supposed to be used with ABS...
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I think I've got mine working. Has anyone ever come up with an ABS activation light solution? Pin 29 will light up the mast caution light.
I did a conversion on an ABS equipped 968 by using the power wires from the original wiring loom to the pump, and then connecting everything else through a gutted ABS brain.
Here's an updated wiring list compiled from everyones work on this thread:
1. RR sensor ground connect to pin 26+
2. RR sensor signal connect to pin 24
3. —
4. RF sensor ground connect to pin 21+
5. RF sensor signal connect to pin 11
6. LF sensor ground connect to pin 6+
7. LF sensor signal connect to pin 4
8. LR sensor ground connect to pin 9+
9. LR sensor signal connect to pin 8
10. Instrument cluster processor (Only vehicles with EDL)
11. K wire ( to OBD connector pin 7 )
12. -
13. —
14. Stoplight switch — connect to pin 25
15. Power to unit - connect to black and blue wire on 944 harness at pump
16. Ground ABS return flow pump - connect to pump mont ground point
17. Positive battery voltage - connect to big red wire on 944 harness at pump
18. Positive battery voltage -- connect to big red wire on 944 harness at pump
19. Ground ABS control module - connect to pump mont ground point
20. Traction control indication light — not used
21. ABS light activation (Ground) — ?????
22. -
23. LR speed sensor - connect to pin 17 on 968 speedo
24. RR speed sensor — could also be used as speedo signal
25. -
26. -
If you a get an ABS unit with lines attached, and a proportioning valve, the only plumbing stuff you’ll need are two unions for the Euro style brake fittings. You can take the detachable portion of the 996 valve off and put on your 944 unit.
Pumps that are known to work 996.355.755.00, 996.355.755.03, 996.355.755.04 I'm guessing the .02 would work also.
I did a conversion on an ABS equipped 968 by using the power wires from the original wiring loom to the pump, and then connecting everything else through a gutted ABS brain.
Here's an updated wiring list compiled from everyones work on this thread:
1. RR sensor ground connect to pin 26+
2. RR sensor signal connect to pin 24
3. —
4. RF sensor ground connect to pin 21+
5. RF sensor signal connect to pin 11
6. LF sensor ground connect to pin 6+
7. LF sensor signal connect to pin 4
8. LR sensor ground connect to pin 9+
9. LR sensor signal connect to pin 8
10. Instrument cluster processor (Only vehicles with EDL)
11. K wire ( to OBD connector pin 7 )
12. -
13. —
14. Stoplight switch — connect to pin 25
15. Power to unit - connect to black and blue wire on 944 harness at pump
16. Ground ABS return flow pump - connect to pump mont ground point
17. Positive battery voltage - connect to big red wire on 944 harness at pump
18. Positive battery voltage -- connect to big red wire on 944 harness at pump
19. Ground ABS control module - connect to pump mont ground point
20. Traction control indication light — not used
21. ABS light activation (Ground) — ?????
22. -
23. LR speed sensor - connect to pin 17 on 968 speedo
24. RR speed sensor — could also be used as speedo signal
25. -
26. -
If you a get an ABS unit with lines attached, and a proportioning valve, the only plumbing stuff you’ll need are two unions for the Euro style brake fittings. You can take the detachable portion of the 996 valve off and put on your 944 unit.
Pumps that are known to work 996.355.755.00, 996.355.755.03, 996.355.755.04 I'm guessing the .02 would work also.
Last edited by car_slave; 03-25-2014 at 09:20 PM. Reason: Added working pump part numbers
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I've been working on this. Mine was not an ABS car originally, so I've switched to a smaller battery and installed the Boxster ABS pump in the freed space.
The hydraulics are inserted at the bulkhead fitting. Wiring is all connected and I do have the ANTI-LOCK light working in the dash. I have not tested the actual system yet as I have a few other things to do before the car is drivable. Here's my diagram.
For the light in the dash, I found that pin 1 of the 4-pin connector behind the glove box takes switched ground to turn-on the ANTI-LOCK light. Pin 21 of the Boxster ABS unit switches ground for the light, so that worked out easily.
Rich
The hydraulics are inserted at the bulkhead fitting. Wiring is all connected and I do have the ANTI-LOCK light working in the dash. I have not tested the actual system yet as I have a few other things to do before the car is drivable. Here's my diagram.
For the light in the dash, I found that pin 1 of the 4-pin connector behind the glove box takes switched ground to turn-on the ANTI-LOCK light. Pin 21 of the Boxster ABS unit switches ground for the light, so that worked out easily.
Rich
Last edited by rlets; 03-04-2014 at 01:25 PM. Reason: revised diagram
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Nice, thanks.