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Old 10-02-2013, 09:51 PM
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Pat,

I was thinking last night, if not big on the Star Wars theme, a cool name for your car would be "Blackbird". The SR-71 (or SR-951) comes to my mind when I look at your car

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Originally Posted by refresh951
, a cool name for your car would be "Blackbird". The SR-71 (or SR-951) comes to my mind when I look at your car

YES!!!!!! I can dig it
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Did some more testing yesterday. Amongst other things we found that by increasing the angle of the 2nd smaller vane on the rear wing we gained top speed down the main straight! Riddle me this?
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Patrick: what were your corner speeds?

Not knowing the track or conditions, I'd wager you got into the range of optimum efficiency on the wing: a multi element wing at low chord angles will be less efficient (L/D) than a single element wing at the same chord angle. Increase the angle and the multi element wing becomes more efficient.

So you may have been able to carry more speed thru the corner leading onto the straight and since you actually gained some efficiency you were able to carry the better run through the entire straight.
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Originally Posted by 333pg333
Did some more testing yesterday. Amongst other things we found that by increasing the angle of the 2nd smaller vane on the rear wing we gained top speed down the main straight! Riddle me this?
I'm guessing that you smoothed out the overall airflow, thus reducing drag, and or creating a bit of lift. The entire rear wing assembly works in concert, after all.

What happens when you turn it completely the opposite way?
Old 10-03-2013, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Duke
Good seeing you on the board again, long time no see!
The car is good and the 3.1l 16v turbo dry sumped engine is working like a champ


Sweeet Dukey,

Car looks fantastic and with that 3.1L it must be a TQ monster. I must get mine running again , love your rear wing, I might end up trying something like that on the carrera ...



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We have only been running 1.3 bar for the moment. The car is pretty quick as is. There's a lot of room for improvement too. I always like that feeling as we know there is more potential to eek out in the future.

Great to see these cars still getting built in all corners of the world. How good would it be to bring them all together one day.

Here's another recent video of Richard in Holland. That car looks pretty nicely hooked up....well except for that little glitch that just cost him the win!

porsche 944 turbo assen 25 9 2013 dnrt adpcr - YouTube
Yes good to see you still waving the flag , the car should cheer you up after that dismal ashes performance ...
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Originally Posted by ausgeflippt951
Patrick: what were your corner speeds?

Not knowing the track or conditions, I'd wager you got into the range of optimum efficiency on the wing: a multi element wing at low chord angles will be less efficient (L/D) than a single element wing at the same chord angle. Increase the angle and the multi element wing becomes more efficient.

So you may have been able to carry more speed thru the corner leading onto the straight and since you actually gained some efficiency you were able to carry the better run through the entire straight.
Pretty much spot on Colin. Better exit from preceding corner. I don't have all the stats to hand but that's the gist of it. The corner speeds were pretty low too. The one leading onto the main straight is very tight and also bumpy. So it's really easy to not get quite right. Map is kinda wonky but you get the idea. Track runs Clockwise.
Not the track we will be running on in Competiton in 2 weeks. That is faster and more flowing.

Originally Posted by ehall
I'm guessing that you smoothed out the overall airflow, thus reducing drag, and or creating a bit of lift. The entire rear wing assembly works in concert, after all.

What happens when you turn it completely the opposite way?
Drag and downforce would have increased with the more aggressive attack Elliot but as there was greater corner exit speed, this overcomes the extra drag.
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Sure you not getting wing stall ...?
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Originally Posted by A.Wayne

Yes good to see you still waving the flag , the car should cheer you up after that dismal ashes performance ...
The Ashes weren't quite as bad as the results suggested. Beaten by a better team at the height of their powers on their turf with the home ground pitches to suit. We've had a lot of injuires to our quickies. Need to build for the future.

Our car was just over a second quicker (on a 60-65 second track) than a 997 Cup on Michelin slicks yesterday. We're on Medium compound R specs. Testing has been very promising.
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Wing stall is unlikely. Unless Patrick did something to the front of the car he's not telling us.

Great showing Patrick!
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Originally Posted by 333pg333
The Ashes weren't quite as bad as the results suggested. Beaten by a better team at the height of their powers on their turf with the home ground pitches to suit. We've had a lot of injuires to our quickies. Need to build for the future.

Our car was just over a second quicker (on a 60-65 second track) than a 997 Cup on Michelin slicks yesterday. We're on Medium compound R specs. Testing has been very promising.
Good to hear .....
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That could be that it cleans up the air at the rear of the car...or it could be a few other things.
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The difference between the 1st test day and yesterday was that we raised the the front ride height a little as the springs had settled. We have to be 65mm above the ground at resting ride height. We knocked a little bit out of the front camber so it’s back to just over -3^. Raised the rear ride height a little yesterday and wound in some rear sway bar. The corner speeds were quicker which translated to the improved straight line speed. The only thing I didn’t confirm was how it changed the downforce at the same part of the track.
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Patrick, I thought your car would be the eternal build. Nice to see it back on track, congratulations. Does it really make 500+ hp? what thread is that in?
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Shown in #755 Nathan. That's to the wheels at 1.5 bar. Currently we're testing at 1.3 bar to be on the safe side. As you can see, we're also leaving quite a lot on the table.


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