zerMATT951

I'd take you up on that, but I've already got all of the gaskets & seals that I need.

Voith

Fantastic price!

reno808

What makes you say that
M-Tune = $1,100
M-Tune w/80# high-z matched injectors = $1,380
Add $50 to either to modify DME for 28-pin (mail-in & return)

Vitesse:
1250 MAF
650 V-Flex software
100 Wiring pigtail
400 Injectors
VRT8x kit: $750

carlege

Im guessing he didnt realize what it took to get the complete kit. Its a great deal i cant wait till im in a position to purchase it.

86 951 Driver

Get these ordered and put on. Then dyno the damn things.

Mighty Shilling

Dyno results in signature with K26/8 and 18 psi.

User 41221

If I am reading the M-tune information on Rogue Tuning site properly, there is no piggyback included in the m-tune kit, correct? Its an optional purchase if you want to be able to tweak your settings, altho I don't see that its available yet. Can someone confirm this? If so, its a bit misleading to list the Vitesse piggyback since its not apples to apples at that point.

Regards, ...Scott

Mighty Shilling

Correct.

so then without the VRT8X, Vitesse is still $2400 compared to RT's $1380

carlege

Nope you need that in order to get the maf to work with the DME. People have them on with out it but its like all the other MAF kits. Poor idle and running rich and poor driveabliity is what you will get with out the piggy back. I feel like this has been brought up time and time again.

reno808

http://www.roguetuning.com/free_944_tuning_tools
Its free

Reno-

fast951

Love your imagination. The above is incorrect... More on this later.

Scott H

Thats only for running an Ostrich emulator, doesn't work with any of Rogue's tunes.

fast951

Perhaps you need to check your sources before you make incorrect statements.
We have racers using the MAF all by itself for years, under race conditions. No PiggyBack..

Improper installation, bad ground, vacuum leaks all affect the running conditions.
Since you are local, maybe you can see how clean a 951 can idle with 95# injectors...

fast951

It's great that you guys have options. When the product is out, I'm sure there will be plenty of technical comparisons.
Some of you are taking this a bit "too far", enough mud slinging!

User 41221

Oh really? Have you experienced this firsthand or are you just repeating something you have heard? I ran a Vitesse MAF/chip for better tha two years and never had that problem. I upgraded to a piggyback when I installed a cam, but even before I started tuning after I upgraded, I still didn't experience those issues.

This is a thread about m-tune, not Vitesse, so I'll redirect it back to that, but it sounds to me that both need a piggyback for fine tuning so its not a fair comparison to price one against the other without comparable equipment. It sounds like Joshua has put a lot of work into this (actually, I am positive he has, anyone who brings a product to market knows this). Assuming his product is working as well as we have been hearing, I bet he'd be the first to ask that the comparisons stay equal.