Vitesse Stage II or Lindsey Racing 340rwhp kit
#46
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Originally Posted by 9fitty1
NZ, I don't want to push this too far, I probably shouldn't have even brought this up but, what hp claim are you talking about? I haven't heard anything..
#47
Originally Posted by '86 944 turbo
Stage 2 MAP kit, TO4E Turbo, 65-lb/hr Delphi injectors, boost gauge, Link A/F gauge , and instructions. And oh yeah, Free shipping.
I made 338.4 RWHP at low 17psi. Show me a kit that can do that with a stock engine
I made 338.4 RWHP at low 17psi. Show me a kit that can do that with a stock engine
#48
Originally Posted by pk951
86 944-turbo
It would be nice to see the dyno chart for that run 338@ 17psi?
To make 370 at 18psi with stock engine good luck.
It would be nice to see the dyno chart for that run 338@ 17psi?
To make 370 at 18psi with stock engine good luck.
#49
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Originally Posted by Perry 951
...I can't say enough about John, he's willing to talk you through things to make sure it's correct. If you have a problem, 9-10 times he'll make time to talk with you. Service must also be thougth about when you buy products you know you'll have questions about.
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The earlier LR hp kits of questionable gains were Kokeln kits. It is my understanding they are no longer Kokeln resellers and are working to replace their Kokeln items with improved designs of their own.
My car basically has their current 340 kit with a few differences installed by the previous owner, ie., K27/8 turbo, APE MAF, stage II intercooler, and Mafterburner. It dynoed right at 340 rwhp @ 18.5 psi max boost WITH what is currently diagnosed as bad hydraulic lifters (loud valve train noise, high exhaust temps, and weird power curve with low torque numbers). The weird dyno chart exactly matches another car they found had hydraulic lifter failure. LR is currently tearing the top end apart to check it out.
Honestly I was a little disappointed with the dyno pull until I realized it wasn't too bad considering failed lifters.
My car basically has their current 340 kit with a few differences installed by the previous owner, ie., K27/8 turbo, APE MAF, stage II intercooler, and Mafterburner. It dynoed right at 340 rwhp @ 18.5 psi max boost WITH what is currently diagnosed as bad hydraulic lifters (loud valve train noise, high exhaust temps, and weird power curve with low torque numbers). The weird dyno chart exactly matches another car they found had hydraulic lifter failure. LR is currently tearing the top end apart to check it out.
Honestly I was a little disappointed with the dyno pull until I realized it wasn't too bad considering failed lifters.
#51
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How can you call it a LR 340 kit with a APE MAF and K27/8? The LR kit uses a Garret based turbo for starters.
From the LR site today
"We are a stocking distributor for "Kokeln" Racing Products. We utilize many of these parts on our own cars and are able to help you with your installation questions or performance expectations"
From the LR site today
"We are a stocking distributor for "Kokeln" Racing Products. We utilize many of these parts on our own cars and are able to help you with your installation questions or performance expectations"
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Originally Posted by NZ951
From the LR site today
"We are a stocking distributor for "Kokeln" Racing Products. We utilize many of these parts on our own cars and are able to help you with your installation questions or performance expectations"
"We are a stocking distributor for "Kokeln" Racing Products. We utilize many of these parts on our own cars and are able to help you with your installation questions or performance expectations"
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Nothing, that subject (LR 363 kit) has been brought up so many times.........there is a reason for a search function on the top right.
Besides, you know very well it is a Koklen kit, and LR posted their dyno along the kit as well.........
ANYWAYS........
Besides, you know very well it is a Koklen kit, and LR posted their dyno along the kit as well.........
ANYWAYS........
#58
Hey Guys,
Slightly OT check out their New Hybrid Clutch.
Please read what it says. Remember my Spec
clutch thread ?
In short if you're gonna buy their power upgrade
kit, you may end up like me.The last advice I got
was quote : Please contact Spec tech department,
for further advice.
Don't flame me guys o.k.? I'm just sharing what
I experienced. BTW I e-mail Spec 3 times & to
date have never got a reply.
Slightly OT check out their New Hybrid Clutch.
Please read what it says. Remember my Spec
clutch thread ?
In short if you're gonna buy their power upgrade
kit, you may end up like me.The last advice I got
was quote : Please contact Spec tech department,
for further advice.
Don't flame me guys o.k.? I'm just sharing what
I experienced. BTW I e-mail Spec 3 times & to
date have never got a reply.
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My car was the one the 340 kit was developed on. The engine had 140,000 miles on it
and a 40% leak down. A fresh engine would show better numbers which is being done now.
For the Kokeln question, you need to contact Lindsey Racing.
The 363 Kit was a Kokeln kit and nothing Lindsey. Some people just can't seem to get that
right after being told dozens of times. It was always advertiesed as a Kokeln kit but
many on this BB refer to it as a Lindsey kit. It wasn't Lindsey that ever called it a Lindsey
kit.
Richards valve train was so noisey on the dyno I was about to run for cover for fear of flying
debree. Its getting a solid setup now.
If you say you have or will be making 400 RWHP, your recommended a clutch that will
hold that rather then one that will slip. Why would you blame Lindsey when spec doesn't
return your calls? Their totally different companies 1000 miles apart.
Richards car with 340 slips in 3rd gear with a escort clutch. My car at 340 would fill the interior
with smoke and smell pretty bad with a sachs kit as well. I think there a lots of cars out there
with slipping clutches and they driver doesn't even know it. When I helped Dave change his,
it was shot and he didn't know it. Blued flywleel and pres plate, warped, and chewed up disc.
The car was beleive it or not faster with the new clutch.
Wes
and a 40% leak down. A fresh engine would show better numbers which is being done now.
For the Kokeln question, you need to contact Lindsey Racing.
The 363 Kit was a Kokeln kit and nothing Lindsey. Some people just can't seem to get that
right after being told dozens of times. It was always advertiesed as a Kokeln kit but
many on this BB refer to it as a Lindsey kit. It wasn't Lindsey that ever called it a Lindsey
kit.
Richards valve train was so noisey on the dyno I was about to run for cover for fear of flying
debree. Its getting a solid setup now.
If you say you have or will be making 400 RWHP, your recommended a clutch that will
hold that rather then one that will slip. Why would you blame Lindsey when spec doesn't
return your calls? Their totally different companies 1000 miles apart.
Richards car with 340 slips in 3rd gear with a escort clutch. My car at 340 would fill the interior
with smoke and smell pretty bad with a sachs kit as well. I think there a lots of cars out there
with slipping clutches and they driver doesn't even know it. When I helped Dave change his,
it was shot and he didn't know it. Blued flywleel and pres plate, warped, and chewed up disc.
The car was beleive it or not faster with the new clutch.
Wes
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Originally Posted by NZ951
How can you call it a LR 340 kit with a APE MAF and K27/8?
From the LR site today
"We are a stocking distributor for "Kokeln" Racing Products."
From the LR site today
"We are a stocking distributor for "Kokeln" Racing Products."
2.) I said it was my understanding that they are no longer Kokeln resllers. They no longer list Kokeln on their Excelence ads. I could be wrong, or maybe they just missed updating that line on their web site, the site does have a LOT of stuff on it.