NZ951

Referring to the references earlier... the 363 kit they sold is a great example. Do a search, PLENTY in the history book about that one which to their credit has been removed from their site now...

HD911

In your own words, "prove it"! I find it very hard to believe that you are making that much power at 17psi. How about a dyno sheet to back up your claims? Somehow I doubt VERY much you will show us a dynosheet.

daniel951

i made over 350rwhp at 16.5 psi and no head work . i am shooting for more now sinc ei have some more goodies plus the a/f ratio's were way off. and i do have dyno charts to prove it

Mike B

Based on my limited involvement with John (Vitesse) I couldn't agree more with Brian...

RKD in OKC

The earlier LR hp kits of questionable gains were Kokeln kits. It is my understanding they are no longer Kokeln resellers and are working to replace their Kokeln items with improved designs of their own.

My car basically has their current 340 kit with a few differences installed by the previous owner, ie., K27/8 turbo, APE MAF, stage II intercooler, and Mafterburner. It dynoed right at 340 rwhp @ 18.5 psi max boost WITH what is currently diagnosed as bad hydraulic lifters (loud valve train noise, high exhaust temps, and weird power curve with low torque numbers). The weird dyno chart exactly matches another car they found had hydraulic lifter failure. LR is currently tearing the top end apart to check it out.

Honestly I was a little disappointed with the dyno pull until I realized it wasn't too bad considering failed lifters.

NZ951

How can you call it a LR 340 kit with a APE MAF and K27/8? The LR kit uses a Garret based turbo for starters.

From the LR site today

"We are a stocking distributor for "Kokeln" Racing Products. We utilize many of these parts on our own cars and are able to help you with your installation questions or performance expectations"

hosrom_951

Again?

NZ951

WTF are you on Sam?

hosrom_951

Nothing, that subject (LR 363 kit) has been brought up so many times.........there is a reason for a search function on the top right.

Besides, you know very well it is a Koklen kit, and LR posted their dyno along the kit as well.........

ANYWAYS........

NZ951

I already said no need to dwell on the fact they misrepresented the product in my earlier post Sam! Others were mentioning it prior...

hosrom_951

Thought you meant something else

My bad!

special tool

RKD - the APE MAF runs out of calibration at around 340, you won't get any higher because the DME gets confused. Experience talking.

J Chen

Hey Guys,
Slightly OT check out their New Hybrid Clutch.
Please read what it says. Remember my Spec
clutch thread ?
In short if you're gonna buy their power upgrade
kit, you may end up like me.The last advice I got
was quote : Please contact Spec tech department,
for further advice.
Don't flame me guys o.k.? I'm just sharing what
I experienced. BTW I e-mail Spec 3 times & to
date have never got a reply.

stewardx

My car was the one the 340 kit was developed on. The engine had 140,000 miles on it
and a 40% leak down. A fresh engine would show better numbers which is being done now.

For the Kokeln question, you need to contact Lindsey Racing.

The 363 Kit was a Kokeln kit and nothing Lindsey. Some people just can't seem to get that
right after being told dozens of times. It was always advertiesed as a Kokeln kit but
many on this BB refer to it as a Lindsey kit. It wasn't Lindsey that ever called it a Lindsey
kit.

Richards valve train was so noisey on the dyno I was about to run for cover for fear of flying
debree. Its getting a solid setup now.

If you say you have or will be making 400 RWHP, your recommended a clutch that will
hold that rather then one that will slip. Why would you blame Lindsey when spec doesn't
return your calls? Their totally different companies 1000 miles apart.

Richards car with 340 slips in 3rd gear with a escort clutch. My car at 340 would fill the interior
with smoke and smell pretty bad with a sachs kit as well. I think there a lots of cars out there
with slipping clutches and they driver doesn't even know it. When I helped Dave change his,
it was shot and he didn't know it. Blued flywleel and pres plate, warped, and chewed up disc.
The car was beleive it or not faster with the new clutch.

Wes

RKD in OKC

1.) Because the goal was to use as many of the parts already on the car as possible and still reach the output of the 340 kit. It got there, but sure had to crank the boost up to get it @ 18.5.

2.) I said it was my understanding that they are no longer Kokeln resllers. They no longer list Kokeln on their Excelence ads. I could be wrong, or maybe they just missed updating that line on their web site, the site does have a LOT of stuff on it.