DeWolf

I think someone on here has an 800HP 928.

hacker-pschorr

You know Lart, your trolling is losing a lot of steam in your old age. The initial post is making fun of an early 928 that most likely has the original aluminum ball joints and one failed. Should we talk about the issues 944's have with control arms? I'm sure it's impossible to find a photo of a 944 on the side of the road with one of them failed.

Last time I checked the 944 series started off as nothing more than a hot hatch proposal to VW / Audi, which they rejected and continued on with the Scirocco / Corrado.
Porsche with their tail between their legs, gathered up the pieces and continued on to salvage what they had by stealing engineering from the 928 project to create a proper Porsche engine.

How embarrassing is it that Volkswagen used the 944 as a comparison to show how much faster the Scirocco and Corrado were?

Another interesting attempted at insulting the 928. Are you aware the 928 and 944 are based on the same architecture and made out of the same material? I'm thinking no.....otherwise such a comment would have been omitted since any block failures common to the 928 would surely apply to the 944. You see...of the 928 blocks that have cracked (it can happen) it wasn't the "V" that failed, but other areas that would be identical to the 944 - like cylinder walls.... So if this is such a damming fact about 928's, I guess you also feel 944 blocks are the same pile of garbage?

I see you are finally learning something. The 928 was designed from the start to be a GT, this is very old news........

We've eclipsed over 1,000hp at the rear wheels.

Stock block, crank, rod bearings valves, displacement, still the 928 transmission......and it will spank a Bugatti Veyron. Full interior too, this is not a gutted race car, he drives it to work almost every day. This isn't even his best run (those will be posted eventually.....hint...he's in the mid 9's now...).
Once he gets everything dialed in to launch it with more boost, we will start to see some really impressive numbers.






For the record, I own a 944S that I purchased in 1996 and it has been parked next to a 16V Scirocco since 2001

SeanR

For a moderator, you do sometimes come out with some posts that are actually readable. Gretch isn't rubbing off on you too much.

Vilhuer

Seriously. Besides 928 blocks I have also destroyed 944 blocks in storage. They are waiting to be melted to create 8-9mm thick alusil deck plates. You get about 5 of them from one 944 block. They are used to make 928 block better and prevent cylinder towers from cracking on boosted and stroker applications. They could be helpful in 944 engines also. Might even prevent head gasket problems which have killed many 944 and 968 engines in exact same way as 928 engines. Open deck design was stupid idea and is shared by many different Porsche models. Being boosted 951 will kill gasket even faster than stock NA 928.

What some old magazine articles mean when they mention cracked block waiting to happen they are talking about alternator and ac compressor being mounted to the block and being so low that hitting something hard will hit those low mounted parts. In certain cases this can also kill the block. 944, 968 etc. is not isolated from this problem either.

Compare '85-95 928 seats and they fair much better than same period 944 seats. They are better made and more comfortable when they are worn.

Adamant1971

The only thing your selling is crazy. And sorry we are not buying. Go fu{k your hat.

GT6ixer

And then there is this...

Bill Ball

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2. Some people like some cars, other people like other cars.
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4. My car is better than your car.

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mrgreenjeans

Listening to mr regular's car review of the 944S was much like relieving my dog's **** glands;

a lot of foul secretions.

Bill Ball

Yeah, good analogy.

Shawn Stanford

• He's not wrong about them being slow, the revs, or red line.
• WTF with those wheels?
• This guy is not driving my 951.

BC

I have a 928 block I was going to recycle. How could I do what you are suggesting?

hacker-pschorr

How much power you need to be making for the open deck to become an issue? Todd's block is stock, 1,000+hp, still together. Todd did experience some cylinder ballooning and one broken cylinder wall in the early, early stages of boosting 928 engines. This has nothing to do with the power the engine was making and everything to do with detonation.

6+ liter cars have thinner cylinder walls than stock, and I'm not aware of those having failures unless again, the tune grenades the engine (or something else fails like stuck injector causing a cylinder to go lean or something).

Were the cylinder walls in Joe or Mark A race engines reinforced? I don't recall seeing that mentioned anywhere or in the photos of those motors. Kibort's race engine is not reinforced in any way, other than the Nikasil coating.

V2Rocket

+1
been wondering about the possibility of doing just that for some time.

2.5L 944 blocks have "cylinder barrel movement" problems under boost/high power situations. this is largely mitigated in the 3.0 blocks with siamesed cylinders.

BC

I was more thinking along the lines of the bore wall being thinned by the overbore and maybe needing this.

Rationally, it would be while before I would even do this, but it was a good time to ask the question.

The other difficulty is if you did the plate, would it be before or after nikasil?

hacker-pschorr

I'd say ask Todd but he will most likely spend 4 hours talking you out of installing the plate and you'll forget why you called.