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Old 12-11-2015, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by murfthesurf13
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Could you point that out somewhere as I guess I missed that when I signed up for the forum. Please cite the rule and where it's located. If I'm wrong I'll gladly apologize. And please stop the name calling, it's really not called for even when you do it in a passive aggressive form. Thanks, Murf
It's not passive at all. Apparently you lack the reading comprehension needed to understand that there is not a single post on your thread that agrees with you. Might need to take a look in the mirror and see that there were a dozen ways you could have handled this situation, why you picked the worst way is beyond me.
Old 12-11-2015, 12:53 PM
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no doubt his outrage at the total indifference to his "I'll never do business with your company again" left him with no option but to try to publicly defame the company to get even and feel empowered.

And Docmirror if I can get that same offer of $37.50 I might just go away too.....
Old 12-11-2015, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by murfthesurf13
docmirror, do you really want to curtail free speech? A forum is a place for people to express their views. Just because they are not your views doesn't mean they are not valid. Are you sure you don't live in Austin?
Well, first your 1st Amendment rights to free speech are not unlimited. If you think my offer to pay you to go away are some kind of civil violation of your rights, I encourage you to contact your state AG and provide a copy of the thread, including all my unedited posts, the butthurt form filled out and ask if they will bring an action against me. If it gets that far, just send me a PM, and I'll gladly supply the state AG with my contact info so he can proceed(I know it's a he because you are in UT, and women have almost zero rights there).

Now, secondly - I'm not telling you to get off rennlist, and I'm not whining about the people who run the place to force you off, I won't be starting any kind of campaign, or get the law involved, or brow beat you in public(off rennlist of course) so that you suffer some kind of emotional breakdown, I'm just simply paying you for a service. I pay you $37.50 and you GTFO of here, and never ever come back. Think of it as a personal service contract. Think of it as me paying you for your time spent somewhere else. Think of it as an offer to stop being a complete ***, and you'll be $37.50 richer.

Limited time offer. Expires soon, objects in mirror are closer, pro driver, closed course, and may cause **** leakage.
Old 12-11-2015, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by James Bailey

And Docmirror if I can get that same offer of $37.50 I might just go away too.....
$37.50 for all!
Old 12-11-2015, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by docmirror
I pay you $37.50 and you GTFO of here, and never ever come back.
The ignore function is free.
Old 12-11-2015, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by GlenL
The ignore function is free.
See my prev post. Thought I'd do a public service. Guess I was wrong.
Old 12-11-2015, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by murfthesurf13
docmirror, do you really want to curtail free speech? A forum is a place for people to express their views. Just because they are not your views doesn't mean they are not valid. Are you sure you don't live in Austin?
Murf, I don't think he is trying to curtail your freedom of speech, but even if he were I think he is entitled to attempt to do so. I think it is only the government that is not supposed to curtail free speech. Privately seems fine to me. What he is trying to tell you, in his own form of free speech, is that he thinks you are wrong and that you are so wrong that you and your views, from his perspective, are not welcome to be here.

I think the problem is that you have a wrong view of just what 928 International, and its principals, are in respect to this kind of loosely structured but tightly knit 928 community that focuses its attentions and efforts here on the Rennlist 928 Forum and on each other and their 928 needs. They are not much like Sears, Walmart, Napa, or even folks like Oklahoma Foreign, who dismantle all kinds of Porsches, but rather they are simply insiders like most of the rest of the people who have responded about your views, and they can be called upon just like the rest of us for support even outside of their 928 related business endeavor.

Even though some have expressed a bit of sympathy about some aspect of your views, I personally don't think you are entitled to any. 928 International posts their list of just about everything that might be or become available, new or used, for the 928 and with their prices for either. I think it is totally unreasonable to expect that they would daily or even weekly or monthly update the list to reflect only what they happen to have in stock. I think that is absurd.

When you and I met in person I did not notice anything unreasonable about you, but I too think your views about your reported situation and your future plans about how to deal with it are simply wrong, and your approach to this does not fit at all with the views of most of the rest of this 928 community. I think you would have been much better off to have completely re-assessed your position and tried to become a better part of this group. There is available here a lot more support and sympathy for your gas cap need than you are likely to ever see now.

Edit: P.S. I think your never doing business with 928 International is very much like cutting off your nose to spite your face, as my mother used to say.

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Old 12-11-2015, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by murfthesurf13
Here's what I forgot to mention.

Not only did they not have the part in stock when they advertised they did, but when I received the other parts I received a store credit for the $37.50 for the gas cap that wasn't available.

How about returning my money Mr. Anderson as I'm not doing business with your company ever again. I don't believe you can hold my money if you can't produce the part.

And yes, I paid for shipping for a part that I did not receive.

I will be calling your company to see if you will do the honorable thing.

Number 5 on the original NOT CURRENTLY IN STOCK list is gas cap. DUH !!!! Nobody advertised they had them. Suck it up buttercup, you made the mistake !
Old 12-11-2015, 01:20 PM
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So the cool part of all this is that 928 International will not feel the need to shutter their operation based on a back-ordered gas cap.

Murf, is the lack of a gas cap this week somehow keeping you from making the pilgrimage to Mecca or SLC? If so, and now that you know that a half-price on-sale used part isn't instantly available from 928 International, you know you have other options. There are other used parts recyclers believe it or not. None with the same knowledge and support exclusively for the 928 mind you. Maybe call a few of them, like the one in Phoenix or the one in Los Angeles, and see if they (a) have the part available at all, and (b) are in the habit of price-matching at half of the half of the new price.

Or you can always head over to the parts counter at the Porsche dealer in sunny St. George. Wait.... There isn't one! Cedar City? Nope. How about Mesquite, a really nice drive down through the gorge? Nope. Nada.

Perhaps your old gas cap will suffice for a while as you explore all your other options.


And be aware: Claire Vouyant no longer works at 928 International or any other supplier. Retired well in advance of the Great Recession, it seems. Regardless, your gas cap lock won't match your current key. I share this only so you won't be double-disappointed should a cap somehow make it to you.


So call 928 International, explain to them that their business model is not aligned with your expectations, cancel the soft backorder on your used cap at the sale price, and the credit will appear on your CC statement if in fact they charged you for it already. On your request, they would probably delete your name and address from their customer database too. Just ask -- they are very accomodating!
Old 12-11-2015, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by joejoe
Murph had a bad start here, why not let this die and start over?
He actually had a good start and has been here a year. He even posted on last year's half off sale.

Looking back over his posts, this actually seems out of character. I believe he posted in the heat of the moment. It happens. Maybe his ego is too big to apologize - I don't know? Some of us have a hard time admitting when we are wrong - I know I do, sometimes.

I do know, however, that I have several friends and relatives that are current and retired law enforcement, as Murph is. It is not a job I would ever want to do. It can taint your view of the world: everyone can start being viewed as the the kind of slime they have the pleasure to confront every day on the job. If someone has 10 good traits and one bad one, they will spot the bad one right off. It goes with the territory.

Murph: we are trying to tell you that 928 International is NOT slime. They are alright - they have done right by us. We can vouch for them. You are misinterpreting what is going on. They are swamped with their 1/2 off sale. IF a mistake was made, or IF you don't like some assumption they have made, they will make it right. I will guarantee that with my own $37.50, as well.

We would normally appreciate the warning you started out with, but all of our experience tells us you are way off on this one.
Old 12-11-2015, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by hernanca
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I do know, however, that I have several friends and relatives that are current and retired law enforcement, as Murph is. It is not a job I would ever want to do. It can taint your view of the world: everyone can start being viewed as the the kind of slime they have the pleasure to confront every day on the job. If someone has 10 good traits and one bad one, they will spot the bad one right off. It goes with the territory.
And another piece of the great entropy clicks into place. It's not his fault, because he is '_________________'(fill in).

No one is responsible anymore. It's society, job, wife, politics, religion, sex, drugs, rock & roll.....

Still no PM so I guess I'm out, but still $37.50 richer. Merry xmas, kwanza, Hanukkah or whatever.
Old 12-11-2015, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by docmirror
I forgot something, if I send you a check for $37.50 will you get off rennlist forever, and promise to never darken this website again? Seriously, I have the money, and can paypal it to you in a matter of minutes. But - you gotta live up to the bargain, I want you off this site so bad I'm will to pay you for it, and you agree NOT to come back in another disguised user ID. Deal?
are you on the list for the part when one becomes available?

if so, why is there a problem. you have what is called, "part on back order" .
if you want the money back, why didnt you just call them instead of try and throw one of our friends and supporters here, under the bus? as the new guy, that's a little crazy.... certainly no one will take your side , unless you really had a problem.
Old 12-11-2015, 03:23 PM
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Be aware!!!!

I just had a bad experience with RENSLISTS. They advertise $37.50 to leave the forum. I saw they had and still have listed on their web-site and since I am the most useles and annoying member. I figured the $37.50 was MINE and I could use it to pickup a few other Prius parts that I could use for my frame off build.. The $37.50 to leave RANSLISTERS was the main purchase.

Today I see this thread, but the offer is going to some other dude ! ! I posted to speak with Doc, who explained that just because it's on the web-site that it doesn't mean they have it for me too.. Then why have it advertised if you don't have it? I believe this deceptive advertising.

I read this offer over the interneterwebs, prepared to accept this offer over the interwebs. You would think they would have a current inventory system that when someone posts to the threas they would check the availability of the $37.50 before accepting your agreement to the deal.

I am not happy with this thread, who I've done business with in the past. I will no longer post replies here as I feel i was ripped off by their deceptive advertising.

I will be interesting to see if they reply as I'm sure they monitor these forums.

The main question I have, is why is the $37.50 still advertised on this thread. is it hopes that some day they will come across another member and be able to offer it?
Old 12-11-2015, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by docmirror
And another piece of the great entropy clicks into place. It's not his fault, because he is '_________________'(fill in).

No one is responsible anymore. It's society, job, wife, politics, religion, sex, drugs, rock & roll.....

Still no PM so I guess I'm out, but still $37.50 richer. Merry xmas, kwanza, Hanukkah or whatever.
Doc,

In my book, trying to understand WHY someone might be acting the way they are does NOT EXCUSE them from being held ACCOUNTABLE (RESPONSIBLE) for their actions.

Some may see it the way you say, but I do not see one necessarily following the other.

Understanding (or some semblance of it) DOES perhaps, maybe, possibly, at the acknowledged and weighed risk of casting pearls to swine, offer the glimpse of a road to bettering themselves. When the student is ready, the teacher appears....

I understand some students will always be blind and/or deaf however, or just too old to bother trying to learn new tricks.
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Originally Posted by mark kibort
are you on the list for the part when one becomes available?

if so, why is there a problem. you have what is called, "part on back order" .
if you want the money back, why didnt you just call them instead of try and throw one of our friends and supporters here, under the bus? as the new guy, that's a little crazy.... certainly no one will take your side , unless you really had a problem.
No. I haven't purchased anything from the good folks at 928Itnl in at least 7 years. I don't want any money from anyone, and have not asked for money from you, or anyone else. In fact, I've offered to PAY the OP to leave.

I have no problem vis-a-vis the gas cap. Mine works perfectly. I think you should put me on ignore, it'll save us both a lot of time. If the OP is one of our supporters, he has a strange way of presenting it. As for being a friend; I had one of those once. It was 1974. No wait - it was 73, yeah - 1973.


BTW, I have no idea what your post is about, but I'm bored at work, and you are a convenient target.


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