1978 5sp #107 just arrived - aka the restoration of Minerva
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Couple of steps forward, one step back- pulled bumper cover to fix/de-crapify the headlight washer nozzles. First time we tried to test them those red blowoff valves did their job and showered the underside of the bumper cover with petrified goo from the inside of the feeder hose. ![ducking](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/icon107.gif)
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I believe the technical German term is "descheissify", a term with which we became most familiar since November! (keeping my avatar as a reminder of where we started)
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I read this and finally referred back to our original photos. I am curious if others can weigh in on this issue. Maybe it is even another early '78/late '78 change.
I am not an expert like Greg, but I think there may be a discrepancy on this issue. I know the later cars have silver sleeves and adjusters, at least on the GTS and S4 I owned. However, in the attached picture what looks to be what is left of the original finish shows a cad plated finish.
While not infallible, we cleaned very carefully every disassembled component to duplicate the underlying finish in an effort to be as close to factory delivered as possible. It is harder to tell from the picture below, but in person we observed an original gold finish. It is possible that some previous owner refinished that part at some point, but that would be inconsistent with the vast majority of the car as purchased.
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Early cars had the lower perches plated yellow cad. I think later they were then painted over black.
here are some pics from Brian Long book that shows them in yellow cad.
I refinished mine that way.
here are some pics from Brian Long book that shows them in yellow cad.
I refinished mine that way.
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Not sure if it's the Greg Brown rule of car prep or the Mark Anderson rule of car prep. Perhaps it's both: Car prep fills up all the time available before an event, right up to where you have to get on the road.
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Yes, it works perfectly as long as every station to which you tune happens to be playing white noise.
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Monterey Car Week was so hectic and fun, finally taking a few minutes to bring the lose ends together.
As many of you have seen from the "Going back to Cali - Carmel that is! Aug 16th Concours" thread, Minerva and fellow 928s enjoyed a week of deserved attention.
It was interesting to see that although the exterior color brought many to the car, the interior was what garnered the most sustained attention and comments.
I recently reviewed the timeline in order to be prepared to explain the car at concours judging at the 2 events this week. I thought I would pass it on since this thread has so many posts over the past 11 months.
Rough Timeline:
September 2015 - purchased Minerva
September - got her running, fuel tank decontamination, fuel system rehab
October - steam clean, evaluate
Halloween - move to Rob's and begin disassembly
December - send bare unibody to paint, engine refurbishment, cleaning, parts out to recondition, parts sent for Cad plating
New Years 2016 - back from paint, upholstery sent out for refurb, systems reassembly
February - Transaxle rebuild, more subsystem reassembly
March - General assembly begins, engine running by month's end
April - test drives begin, reseal leaking cam towers
May - details
June - details
July - details!
August - Concours Judging at Concours on the Avenue (second in class - Continental, European, and Foreign Sport class) and Werks Reunion (1st in class - Leipzig Class(?) and Sponsor's Choice Award)
It is hard to believe we came so far in 11 months. There will be a separate acknowledgement post because so many helped this project that it really feels to me like a community effort.
As many of you have seen from the "Going back to Cali - Carmel that is! Aug 16th Concours" thread, Minerva and fellow 928s enjoyed a week of deserved attention.
It was interesting to see that although the exterior color brought many to the car, the interior was what garnered the most sustained attention and comments.
I recently reviewed the timeline in order to be prepared to explain the car at concours judging at the 2 events this week. I thought I would pass it on since this thread has so many posts over the past 11 months.
Rough Timeline:
September 2015 - purchased Minerva
September - got her running, fuel tank decontamination, fuel system rehab
October - steam clean, evaluate
Halloween - move to Rob's and begin disassembly
December - send bare unibody to paint, engine refurbishment, cleaning, parts out to recondition, parts sent for Cad plating
New Years 2016 - back from paint, upholstery sent out for refurb, systems reassembly
February - Transaxle rebuild, more subsystem reassembly
March - General assembly begins, engine running by month's end
April - test drives begin, reseal leaking cam towers
May - details
June - details
July - details!
August - Concours Judging at Concours on the Avenue (second in class - Continental, European, and Foreign Sport class) and Werks Reunion (1st in class - Leipzig Class(?) and Sponsor's Choice Award)
It is hard to believe we came so far in 11 months. There will be a separate acknowledgement post because so many helped this project that it really feels to me like a community effort.
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Hey so this is probably well known to those with greater affinity for concourse-- but, when you have an OB, do you have to keep to the steel lower ball joints at risk of life and limb (assuming car actually gets driven occasionally) or do the 'rules' accomodate the update?
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We weren't privy to the judging sheets at either Carmel or Werks, but I would venture that the LBJ's aren't even on the radar of the judges, at this stage of 928s competing in concours. If I were judging 928s in a street class I wouldn't deduct for steel ball joints on a pre-82 car, but in preservation class I would.
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The lead judge at Concours on the Avenue on Tue came up to me afterwards commenting that even though they can't score on the underside of the car, he did look because he was drawn to it based on the rest of the car. He voiced great appreciation for the undercarriage and complimented us.
That has been my experience with other concours judging. Also, I have been to a few judging classes, and the rule of thumb is that if you can't see it on bended knee, you can't mark down for it.
Now, if you are in a Pebble Beach type competition at the highest level, you still won't see judges crawling around under the car. However, they will ask all the relevant questions as it relates to the total originality including every aspect of the car, and a technique book documenting the detail is usually required to verify those items that can't be seen. I have been a Field Host at Pebble Beach for several years now and seen this firsthand.
That has been my experience with other concours judging. Also, I have been to a few judging classes, and the rule of thumb is that if you can't see it on bended knee, you can't mark down for it.
Now, if you are in a Pebble Beach type competition at the highest level, you still won't see judges crawling around under the car. However, they will ask all the relevant questions as it relates to the total originality including every aspect of the car, and a technique book documenting the detail is usually required to verify those items that can't be seen. I have been a Field Host at Pebble Beach for several years now and seen this firsthand.