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Old 12-13-2013, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by RKD in OKC
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I would like your new 5 with the following modification: move the 928 to the 9 o'clock position (leaving the crest at 12 o'clock). That would be my favorite. Each of the four quadrants would have its own element and the watch face would be balanced.
Old 12-13-2013, 08:35 AM
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The refinements keep getting better. I like 4, as my favorite so far, but all your variations look very good.
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What do you think about putting something like his shark design at the 12 o'clock position instead of the ! ?
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I like the [!] because it is specifically 928. To me the crest is too generically Porsche, and the shark is too generically car. Just my opinion.
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Originally Posted by timbuktoo
i like 0 best, but could you try with the date in red and the day in black?
The day/date color are functions of the day and date wheels in the watch. Black ones can be had, but they can be hard to find. If you want a black day/date, then the trick will be to source the correct donor watch.

Originally Posted by RKD in OKC
Yeah, this...

Originally Posted by M. Requin
I like the [!] because it is specifically 928.
As I pointed out, the P!g (Cayenne) is (in)famous for the '!'.

We're getting down to the wire. Let's give until Monday for any additional refinements and then we'll set up some voting...
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The shape of the numbers in 928 can be adjusted to some degree and still be "factory." Compare the difference between the ones on the WS Manuals with the ones on the door sill. I would like the see them slightly taller and pushed out to the edge more eliminating the hour and a couple of minute marks in the chapter ring.
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[!] is also on the 968 and 944 (mine is always on!)
Old 12-13-2013, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ReDesign by FEATHER
I would like the see them slightly taller and pushed out to the edge more eliminating the hour and a couple of minute marks in the chapter ring.
I'd like to keep the marker for 9, as that will be lumed. And I think it will look more balanced with the '928' the same size and relative position as the day/date window. So, a little taller, and a little shorter.
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Originally Posted by Chaos
[!] is also on the 968 and 944 (mine is always on!)
Ok so the [!] is not unique to the 928 yet it's fairly recognizable. My thoughts are Shawn started this initiative and has expressed his desire to include the [!]. Therefore, I think it should be included.


My curiosity now is are the 'red hands' available? This originally started as a custom dial project that will fit in any number of Seiko cases. It was mentioned the day/date colors depend on the donor watch. No mention has been made regarding custom hands, but with a little google research I see many are available... just not ones like those depicted in the concept drawings.

That said, and with all the variation being considered... what would you think about being 100% black and white (face, hands, day/date) with only red in the [!]... in case red hands are difficult to source. If I knew how to photoshop, I would post this variation.
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Originally Posted by Shawn Stanford
I'd like to keep the marker for 9, as that will be lumed. And I think it will look more balanced with the '928' the same size and relative position as the day/date window. So, a little taller, and a little shorter.
How about pushing the 928 out like I suggested and make the 9 luminous and solid and then make the 2 and 8 outlined like I did on my clock face? That way the 9 is more clearly doing double duty as both the name of the hour and as the first digit in the model number.
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Originally Posted by Shawn Stanford
The day/date color are functions of the day and date wheels in the watch. Black ones can be had, but they can be hard to find. If you want a black day/date, then the trick will be to source the correct donor watch.
I'm a little confused.

Are you going to provide complete watches?
That's the impression I have gotten.

But you mention finding a "Donor watch" above.
Is that for doing nonstandard stuff like day/date color?

So far designs 4 & 0 seem to be favorites. I'd be very happy with either of those.
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I hope everyone realizes that there may be some changes as we shop around getting the watches put together for those that want a complete watch. There is the exact dimensions required, the capabilities of what can actually be printed, hand and case/band availability, etc. And I am sure ALL of that will depend on how many watches are ordered.

Found a web site with pricing for having one watch customized, you supply the parts, even with the $35 custom movement with face, hands, and stem would end up costing almost as much as the limited edition watch. So, I would not be interested in just the movement myself, only a complete watch.

One of the things I question is the minute marks. While they are on the dial of the dress watch, I think they are part of the chapter ring on a diver's watch. I don't know how much of the chapter ring covers the face itself. Also most all the faces on diver's watches have much bigger and bolder luminescent marks than dress watches. That is one of the reasons I wanted a band/case style to be chosen before I started mocking up face designs.

On the inclusion of a Porsche Logo and/or Crest. As a professional, I am not interested in creating artwork for anything that I know would be considered copyright or trademark infringement. If you want a Porsche logo, please find another artist.

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin Joe
I'm a little confused. Are you going to provide complete watches? That's the impression I have gotten. But you mention finding a "Donor watch" above. Is that for doing nonstandard stuff like day/date color? So far designs 4 & 0 seem to be favorites. I'd be very happy with either of those.
At this point it looks like there are two options:
  • For $150, you can get a complete watch which uses the Seiko SNKE51 as the base. This is the watch being used in the designs. You can also Google that model number for more images.
  • For $35, you can get a dial, which you can put into any Seiko watch which uses the 7S26 movement and has a 4 o'clock crown (as opposed to a 3 o'clock crown). This is a HUGE range of watches, including some chunky divers, like the SKX779. Most of these watches (the ones in the first post) will take the dial we're designing.

Originally Posted by RKD in OKC
I hope everyone realizes that there may be some changes as we shop around getting the watches put together for those that want a complete watch.
The problem becomes getting the donor watch. If we go with the SNKE51 from Noah, that's one thing; he's a one-stop shop. If we expand it to include other cases, then we need to find someone else to do the work and we need to find donor watches. I think it would be very possible to find a watchmaker to do the work, but the donor watches will have to be purchased new and provided to the watchmaker, along with the dials. The classic SKX007 diver is $170 from Amazon (the SNKE51 is $80), so the price goes up accordingly, to $245.

For me, that price is a dealbreaker, especially when I can get a slightly beat-up 007 diver on eBay for under $50.

The other issue being that we're going (and by we I assume me, since I took the lead on this) are going to have to collect monies, put an order in to Noah for dials, put an order in to Amazon for watches, mail the dials and watches to the watchmaker, mail the finished watches to the buyer.

Well, I guess that's doable...

Originally Posted by RKD in OKC
One of the things I question is the minute marks. While they are on the dial of the dress watch, I think they are part of the chapter ring on a diver's watch. I don't know how much of the chapter ring covers the face itself.
The chapter ring covers very little of the dial.

Here's a Seiko:


Here is the same dial mounted in a SKX007 case (commonly called a 'Desert Diver):

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I love Seiko watches. They're inexpensive, reliable, and infinitely modifiable. I've been away from Seikos for a few years now - by that I mean that I'm not actively buying more, but I still have a drawerful that I wear constantly.

I forgot how fun it is to plan the build of the next watch!

Here's a search for appropriate divers for this dial: Seiko diver eBay search

A bunch of chapter rings: 10 Watches Seiko chapter rings

Hands from the same site: 10 Watches Seiko hand sets

Here are hands from Harold: Yobokies hands

Endless possibilities!


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