Landseer

Sheibed pink?

It needs headers why?

I hope whoever drives this thing is ready for the reaction, which may not meet expectations.

We 928 freaks are relatively easygoing about modifying the canvas a bit.

God help them if they start bragging about their homebuilt $1200 Porsh in presence of the other 9XX crowd.

It just doesn't seem like a good theme, overall. Other than the separate part about successfully getting it running.

ledee416

look guys... you all love to jump on me... perhaps I deserve it. I am bitching about the price, but it isnt like I cant afford it. I own a decent sized medical practice in Valdosta, Georgia, and I make more than most. That doesnt mean I will be content with someone doubling the price of something just because it says Porsche on it. Just my two cents.

ledee416

car doesnt need headers.... as far as reaction...I didnt buy it for status...I really dont care about the reaction. I just happened to see the price on a pair of headers yesterday, and couldnt believe it. Someone on here compared the cost of a set of ferrari headers.... they are actually almost the same price. Ferrari however, is a supercar... as in a real one. Most Porsches (no offense) simply are not.

jcorenman

Yep...

Oh, this will help...

Seriously, I have no problem with doc's making a good living given all the specialized education that is required. But one thing that is quite different about doctoring is the economics of scale. Whether it is a sole practice or a large clinic, it is still one patient at a time. Manufacturing is completely different, and that's what all the comments are about.

Jadz928

First rule of 928club is.... you don't whine about the cost of Porsche parts.

Second rule of 928club is... you don't tell your wife how much you've spent on Porsche parts.

I am Jack's complete utter lack of surprise.

hacker-pschorr

Your missing the point.

Do some research, long tube headers for a current, mass produced, domestically made sports car cost $1,800 (C6 Corvette, headers by Kooks).

How much do you expect headers to cost for a 20 year old, limited production car made in Germany?


Your in the medical field complaining about the cost of Porsche parts? This thread could get very entertaining....

rgs944

I guess it all depends on what someone says is a supercar. A 1982 Farrari 308 looks to have about 240HP and top speed is around 155mph. Good but not Super impressive, and what does it drive like at any speed? I don't know but my best guess is not as well as a 1982 928 supercar. So which one is Super? It sounds like the OP has plenty of money so why does'nt he just buy a newer car or at least spend the money for a later 32 valve 928. Then add some boost and that will be as fast as you need to go on the street.

archer

There is company on the east coast that sells the 928 headers for a reasonable price, good quality too. Will try and find out more information if members are interested.

Mike Simard

Why do you guys waste your time on these loser threads?
Yep, I've said before and I'll say it again. All these stupid threads should be printed out, wadded up into a ball, doused with napalm and launched with a trebuchet far away from RL. Then the portion of the hard drive where they once resided should be blasted out with a jack hammer and leedee's login should be redirected to honda-corral or mustang-tech.

ledee416

Mike, clearly we should all bow down to your wise guidance and leadership. If you were a little closer than atlanta, I would drive over a slap you.

That being said, I'm not doctor, I own a clinic. I have several physicians who work for me. My point was, like MANY of us, I can go out and buy a brand new 911 or Panamera if I want to. I choose not to. I happen to gravitate towards trying to save cool classic cars from being destroyed. In many cases, I end up giving away the cars to family when they are done.

Since it is a financially losing battle from the beginning, (this car will be worth 20k if you put 30k into it), I like to keep the costs down. Someone on here mentioned headers for 599? I would be stoked to buy a pair at that price.

I am just saying that I think the "coolness" markup on Porsche isnt all that "cool".

Speedtoys

You invite the hassle.
You therefore deserve it
You're _whining_ knowing the reality before you even start the whine.
Next time a good whine comes up Doctor..put a band aid over the hole it comes from.

After all of this, you _really_ think the price is doubled just because it says Porsche on it..._really_. I mean..please, lets focus on your mental snap on this topic.


I mean, why does seeing you cost more than a box of tylenol at CVS? Why are you raising the price of well published medical advice just because somebody is sick?

Honest..why do you **** sick people over like that?

Anybody can read a book on how to fix sick people.

ptuomov

I don't personally mind the price, if the benefits are there.

My biggest complaint about the 928 performance parts market is that the people selling the parts don't publish credible before and after dyno results. Most other interesting cars makes and models appear to have following "kits" available: say headers, cat back, cams, and valve springs. A kit has a clear explanation of how it's supposed to work and where from the power gains are supposed to come. Then, there's a dyno result before and after by the firm making the kit on an otherwise factory stock car. Finally, independent tuners are publishing their results with the kit so there is independent confirmation of the results. Those kinds of kits aren't cheap, but you can be somewhat confident that they are not scams either.

Dyno results are not perfect and are often falsified in a way that even the torque and power aren't consistent. But actual dyno results are a whole hell of a lot better than the "just trust me I am a guru" which one has to rely on if there's irrational aversion to using dynos as means to prove claims. And the people buying the parts can verify the claims on an independent dyno.

The turbo kit I bought from a party to remain unnamed is how it's supposed to work. I got a full explanation of the design principles, a firm price quote, and a predicted power increase. The actual results exceeded the predictions. It wasn't cheap, but it wasn't more expensive than expected in terms of $/hp.

Another example how it's done right is the X-pipe design and testing by Louie Ott. The dyno results are there on his web site still even though he's not selling the pipes anymore.

Maybe it's that there's no spec racing of 928. The American cars have the drag strip and the fun imports have road course racing. Maybe it's that racing is the sunlight that disinfects the market.

hacker-pschorr

The reminds me of a visit to a "clinic" last year.
I hit my head on the corner of a flat screen TV in an RV and cut my head open. I didn't think it was that bad, but my friend took me to a walk in clinic just to be safe.

I was there for less than 30 minutes.
20 - in the waiting room
10 - in the examination room
3 - number of minutes the doctor spent with me, only to say the wound was superficial, just keep it clean

Cost to me = $500 for the clinic (doctors fee was on top of that).

Let's talk some more about inflated prices for 928 parts.

That was me, and I mentioned the Ferrari 355

Fabspeed headers cost $3,500 coated (factory replacement units are double that).

MSDS headers for the Porsche 928 cost $600 un-coated:
http://www.msdsinc.com/exhaust.html

ledee416

I was not aware of the msds. I know they make pipes, but wasnt aware for 928. thanks. I may just put a set on the 80 for that price. as it stands now it just has manifolds running to a single muffler and then out.. no cats.

As fr as the clinic goes...sounds like you got typically screwed. Walk in clinics take advantage of peoples immediate need for attention, and hatred of emergency rooms. its basically like the Target of emergency rooms...The medical field is the ridiculous. My facility sees about 500 patients per month. we make about 250 per patient. I will often do pro bono stuff for people that cant afford it. Obviously, I dont advertise that.

I am actually in the market for an F355. I have been casually looking for about 6 months. I will make sure i give the headers a nice good look before I buy lol. If you decide to put the 928 in with the f355's, then service and parts are very reasonable. I guess it is all how you look at it.

Landseer

Dscarded a set I'd have given you.
They sound good but limit access.
That's why I removed them.
Best way to install is during MM job with cross member out.

Another alternative is 85/86 tubular stainless manifold pipes.
$200 or less used, pretty much direct bolt up.
Less limiting.