Are all 911 guys d*ckheads or what?
#32
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Even if he owned 928's, he'd still be a foolish, undiplomatic little man.
To break this up with a little levity, I will abase myself to his level. (911/Turbo guys I really do like the Car)
Ladies and Gentlemen, the 911 Turbo...
To break this up with a little levity, I will abase myself to his level. (911/Turbo guys I really do like the Car)
Ladies and Gentlemen, the 911 Turbo...
#33
**** camaro. I like that!
Most of the 911 owners I've met are real nice guys. Heck I'd like to try a 964 one of these days just for kicks. Some douches out there though.. I have yet to get some of the newer 996 and later guys to wave at me when I'm driving. One guy with a GT3RS wouldn't talk to me until he saw me in the 360. Kinda eliteist.. Older 911'ers seem to be more social IMHO.
"Mr. Porsche"? Isn't that a bit presumptuous and arrogant? Was his 911 a tiptronic? Call me.. Mr. Pinto!
Most of the 911 owners I've met are real nice guys. Heck I'd like to try a 964 one of these days just for kicks. Some douches out there though.. I have yet to get some of the newer 996 and later guys to wave at me when I'm driving. One guy with a GT3RS wouldn't talk to me until he saw me in the 360. Kinda eliteist.. Older 911'ers seem to be more social IMHO.
"Mr. Porsche"? Isn't that a bit presumptuous and arrogant? Was his 911 a tiptronic? Call me.. Mr. Pinto!
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I swear, 928 owners seem to have poorest self confidence regarding their choice in automobile. I've seen it time and again over the years I've been here on rennlist. So a guy took a jab at your car to make himself feel better. Big deal! I'm sure if you went to a car show and talked to enough people you'd fine someone with another brand to do the same. We are driving 20 or 30 year old cars that were never a hugely popular choice when new. Thats the reason that alot of us can afford them now. If everybody loved the 928 their prices would be at least double of what they are today. Be confident in your choice and enjoy it. There are folks that make fun of 911's and their owners, there are folks that make fun of Lambo's and their owners and there are even people who make fun of Ferrari's and their owners. ( mostly their owners ) If you bought the 928 to be popular make sure you hang around people who don't know any better. If you bought it because you truly like the car and enjoy it, who cares what one guy says at a local bar.
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Personally I think both groups above are missing out. I own both a 911 and a 928 and I feel blessed to be able to experience and love both. They are very different from each other and each has unique characteristics that need to be experienced to appreciate it. Both are truly fantastic Porsche cars.
I must say though the other day I was surprised when a 911 driver gave me a "flash". I did not expect it, but i was pleasantly surprised.
#37
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I hate arrogant SOB's like that... My one buddy asked what Porsche i would get if i won the lottery and i said i'd keep my 928 and buy everything i wanted for it and the garage of my new home would be full of parts... he responded, dumbfounded "Really??? you wouldn't get a nice 911 or something??", "Nope"
Some people are just like that. Personally i also think Jeep owners are a bit arrogant with their holier than thou attitude.
Some people are just like that. Personally i also think Jeep owners are a bit arrogant with their holier than thou attitude.
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Dont let it phase you. Look at the upside; You're married to a cool woman that you can drink a few beers with and she knows enough to be able to 'brag' a little bit about your 928. He seems to be over-compensating for something. I would just smile at him [the **** camaro comment is funny] and enjoy the time out with your wife. He probably is just bitter he lost the real battle (over the woman) and now has to try to preserve his sense of 'status' over you.
I've met some (and have a few friends) cool 911 owners . If he starts in on you ask him how difficult it is to change his plugs, or air cleaner (I saw a video some of the repair procedures for the newer 911s are insane!).
No matter what car you drive, you will find people trying to undermine how 'cool' the car is, but in the end you are the one that has to 'live' with the car. Let him have his fun, you are #winning!
I've met some (and have a few friends) cool 911 owners . If he starts in on you ask him how difficult it is to change his plugs, or air cleaner (I saw a video some of the repair procedures for the newer 911s are insane!).
No matter what car you drive, you will find people trying to undermine how 'cool' the car is, but in the end you are the one that has to 'live' with the car. Let him have his fun, you are #winning!
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I will accept that he may be, or is a PCA instructor. However, if he is, he probably has never been on a track with a 928 in his group, or instructed in one. In my 10 years of driving, I've probably had a few dozen instructors - both assigned, and requested by me. I think out of all those, only 2 or 3 have ever driven a 928 (one was racing one!), and only another 2 or 3 had ever been on the track with one, or instructed in one.
Without exception, they have always been VERY surprised at how capable the car is on good/serious track (one with some serious straights, and elevation changes - e.g. Watkins Glen, Road America, Mid-Ohio, etc.). Early on, when I was driving an '88 automatic, many 911 drivers in my run group would come investigate (I may have passed them, or "hung with them" in the previous outing, and mine was the only 928 there). They'd ask about modifications, and I'd say "stock", then they'd look inside and ask "is that an automatic?". Seemed a bit shocked to know it was, and frequently commented something like "certainly is surprising out there".
I've had many instructors who came away with a great deal of respect for the the car, the last one I had at the Glen said "this car is so much fun to drive and ride in on the track that I may need to consider buying one" (and he was one of the 3-4 best instructors I've ever had).
So - that guy is probably just spouting the same 911 line that has been around since the '70's, when the 928 was called a dentist's wife's car - certainly not a REAL sports car. Usually it is what I call the "social Porsche owners" who think nothing but a 911 is a real Porsche. With the track capability they actually have, the cars earn respect. And most drivers of whatever ilk I've been with at the tracks appreciate having them there. Many say "wish we'd see more of these here", and "they certainly sound awesome".
Gary--
Without exception, they have always been VERY surprised at how capable the car is on good/serious track (one with some serious straights, and elevation changes - e.g. Watkins Glen, Road America, Mid-Ohio, etc.). Early on, when I was driving an '88 automatic, many 911 drivers in my run group would come investigate (I may have passed them, or "hung with them" in the previous outing, and mine was the only 928 there). They'd ask about modifications, and I'd say "stock", then they'd look inside and ask "is that an automatic?". Seemed a bit shocked to know it was, and frequently commented something like "certainly is surprising out there".
I've had many instructors who came away with a great deal of respect for the the car, the last one I had at the Glen said "this car is so much fun to drive and ride in on the track that I may need to consider buying one" (and he was one of the 3-4 best instructors I've ever had).
So - that guy is probably just spouting the same 911 line that has been around since the '70's, when the 928 was called a dentist's wife's car - certainly not a REAL sports car. Usually it is what I call the "social Porsche owners" who think nothing but a 911 is a real Porsche. With the track capability they actually have, the cars earn respect. And most drivers of whatever ilk I've been with at the tracks appreciate having them there. Many say "wish we'd see more of these here", and "they certainly sound awesome".
Gary--
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Since it was the VW beetle whose production was commissioned by Hitler and the 356 and 911 is a direct descendant from it, the 911 is much more fitting for the term "****" than the 928 which was a clean sheet design in the 70's when the **** regime was gone for decades. Stupid with cars, and even more stupid with history.
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**** camaro is funny!
That video is AWESOME!
The guy is a douche, nothing would be as good as the car he owns.
Sorry I don't have a comeback, but eight in the front vs. 6 in the back is hilarious!
That video is AWESOME!
The guy is a douche, nothing would be as good as the car he owns.
Sorry I don't have a comeback, but eight in the front vs. 6 in the back is hilarious!
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There are narrowly-focused owners on many cars besides the 911 guys. 928 owners here often fit that descripton. So long as they see the 928 as a Corvette or Camaro (first time I've heard that one...) clone, it's easy to see thta they are too narrowly-focused. As Gary sagely points out, the 911 Purists who trash-talk other cars usually do so with no personal experience with them. Many 928 owners who have never driven a 911, especially a modern one (993+), would do well to go drive one before condemning them as vacuum cleaners, revamped Volkswagens, or generalizing that they are tail-happy. From the 996, they are now water-cooled, are within reach of the 928 in dimensions and weight, and have rear steering assist similar to what's been in the 928 since its inception.
In the end, it's the owner that makes the car rather than the car making the owner. I happen to own a 928 currently, and would gladly add a late 911 variant to the garage if it made any sense at all. I've owned a 356, several 911's of various character, and will likely also look at other cars like MB and BMW for my next ride. Or (gasp!!) a Panamera sedan.
I'm gonna need a casket with a trailer hitch and a luggage rack for all the junk I've managed to gather, drive, inherit, etc.
In the end, it's the owner that makes the car rather than the car making the owner. I happen to own a 928 currently, and would gladly add a late 911 variant to the garage if it made any sense at all. I've owned a 356, several 911's of various character, and will likely also look at other cars like MB and BMW for my next ride. Or (gasp!!) a Panamera sedan.
I'm gonna need a casket with a trailer hitch and a luggage rack for all the junk I've managed to gather, drive, inherit, etc.