Notices
928 Forum 1978-1995
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: 928 Specialists

Engine Fire

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 3, 2011 | 05:23 PM
  #16  
heinrich's Avatar
heinrich
928 Collector
Rennlist Member

20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 17,270
Likes: 5
From: Seattle
Default

Ahh **** I am sorry tosee this Randy
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2011 | 05:39 PM
  #17  
FredR's Avatar
FredR
Rennlist Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 10,579
Likes: 1,030
From: Oman
Default

Originally Posted by blown 87
That is the reason I will never put a gauge like that on my car.
I have said it to a lot of folks, mark my words, some one is going to set a 928 on fire because of one of them, looks like Randy takes first place.
Greg, +1

I rather feel a better way to measure fuel pressure may be to fit a sender unit somewhere on the pump discharge. It will read a slightly higher pressure than the rail becuase of transmission losses in hte plumbing but it would be accurate enough I suspect. The the signal could then be data logged or put on an analogue display in the cabin. The mount could also be made very robust. Less likely that a leak would flash off in that area.

Pressure gauge connections are infamous for causing fires on oil refineries.

Trouble with leaks in the engine bay is there is a good chance something electrical or a hot surface could flash it off.

Regards

Fred R
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2011 | 05:45 PM
  #18  
FredR's Avatar
FredR
Rennlist Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 10,579
Likes: 1,030
From: Oman
Default

Originally Posted by blown 87
That is the reason I will never put a gauge like that on my car.
I have said it to a lot of folks, mark my words, some one is going to set a 928 on fire because of one of them, looks like Randy takes first place.
Greg, +1

I rather feel a better way to measure fuel pressure may be to fit a sender unit somewhere on the pump discharge. It will read a slightly higher pressure than the rail because of transmission losses in the plumbing but it would be accurate enough I suspect. The signal could then be data logged or put on an analogue display in the cabin. The mount could also be made very robust. Less likely that a leak would flash off in that area.

Pressure gauge connections are infamous for causing fires on oil refineries and we use taper threads to boot.

Trouble with leaks in the engine bay is there is a good chance a hot surface or electrical spark could flash it off.

Regards

Fred R
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2011 | 06:10 PM
  #19  
Tom. M's Avatar
Tom. M
Deleted
Rennlist Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 5,659
Likes: 312
Default

How much for the interior???


Sorry to hear..hope it'll clean up easily..
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2011 | 06:17 PM
  #20  
Mongo's Avatar
Mongo
Official Bay Area Patriot
Fuse 24 Assassin
Rennlist Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 31,684
Likes: 127
Default

Dibs on the transmission. JK
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2011 | 06:23 PM
  #21  
Mrmerlin's Avatar
Mrmerlin
Team Owner
20 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 31,243
Likes: 4,225
From: Philly PA
Default

Randy sorry to see your ride catch fire,
this makes me think that it might be a better idea to have the fuel pressure sender removed and the outlet capped unless the sytem is being tested.l

As Greg already posted the reanson for the spark was a leaking ignition wire open the hood run the car after capping the sender outlet and you should be able to find the sparking wire
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2011 | 06:28 PM
  #22  
Bertrand Daoust's Avatar
Bertrand Daoust
Rennlist Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 5,244
Likes: 1,466
From: Gatineau, Québec, Canada
Default

First, happy that YOU are ok.
Second, good that you car as only minor damage.
Third, now I'm sure I won't put a gauge on my car...

Bring her back to life soon!

Last edited by Bertrand Daoust; Nov 3, 2011 at 09:56 PM.
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2011 | 07:10 PM
  #23  
blown 87's Avatar
blown 87
Rest in Peace
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 9,903
Likes: 2
From: Bird lover in Sharpsburg
Default

There is a whole bunch of arcing going inside the vented distributor, and there is nothing you can do about that except either go to a COP design or pressurize the distributors like Jag did on the V12's to keep fuel vapor out.

I have had 2 V12 Jags catch on fire in my shop due to leaking lines an the distributor being deep down in the V, and one blew the cap into little pieces.

So the best defense is to not have any fuel vapor or liquid where it should not be.
Reply
Rennlist Stories

The Best Porsche Posts for Porsche Enthusiasts

story-0

2026 Porsche 911 Club Coupe is Spectacular, And Everything Wrong with the Porsche Market

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Talos Takes Your 991 Porsche 911 GT3 to the Next Level for a Cool $1.13 Million

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

9 Vehicles Porsche Helped Engineer that Aren't Porsches

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

9 Features and Characteristics That Only Porsche People Understand

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

I've Written 500 Rennlist Articles: Here's How Porsche Has Changed Along the Way

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

10 Most Unnecessary Porsches Ever Built (And Why We Love Them)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Porsche 911 GT3 S/C vs 718 Spyder RS: 10 Categories, One Winner

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

This Builder Is Turning Heads With Its Slantnose 911 Creation

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Porsche 911 GT3 Artisan Edition Pays Homage to Japanese Culture

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Porsche Reveals Coupe Variant of the Electric Cayenne With a Fresh Look

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Nov 3, 2011 | 07:32 PM
  #24  
RFJ's Avatar
RFJ
Rennlist Member
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 950
Likes: 3
From: SW FL
Default

Very sorry Randy,glad you saved it.
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2011 | 07:37 PM
  #25  
Doug_B_928's Avatar
Doug_B_928
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 946
Likes: 22
From: Winnipeg, Canada
Default

Originally Posted by RFJ
Very sorry Randy,glad you saved it.
+1
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2011 | 07:37 PM
  #26  
linderpat's Avatar
linderpat
Rennlist Member
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 14,898
Likes: 2,823
From: Pittsburgh, PA
Default

Oh My - sorry to see this Randy. Hope the fix is quick and clean!
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2011 | 07:37 PM
  #27  
EspritS4s's Avatar
EspritS4s
Rennlist Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,095
Likes: 2
From: Massachusetts
Default

Randy,
Damn that sucks. Glad you and the car (mostly) are OK.
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2011 | 07:39 PM
  #28  
Alan's Avatar
Alan
Electron Wrangler
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 13,662
Likes: 621
From: Phoenix AZ
Default

Originally Posted by Tony
with out me searching right away..any good sources for such a set up. Any one have pictures or a how to for a 928 specific system?
Tony - well I think you have to make your own...

https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...eferrerid=6055

Alan
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2011 | 08:17 PM
  #29  
Imo000's Avatar
Imo000
Captain Obvious
Super User
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 22,846
Likes: 348
From: Cambridge, Ontario, Canada
Default

Originally Posted by Lizard931
Replace your ign leads! You have a leaky lead somewhere that created a spark and ignited it.
Sorry to see this.
Yup, I was going to say the same thing.

Since it was a small leak, the gas would have evaporated by the time it got to the headers and even then, it needs a lot fo heat to ignite it but one arching wire will spark it up in an instant.


Good save.
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2011 | 10:00 PM
  #30  
GregBBRD's Avatar
GregBBRD
Former Vendor
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 15,228
Likes: 2,530
From: Anaheim
Default

Randy:

That sucks...but it could have been much worse. Nice job!
Reply



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 02:36 PM.

story-0
2026 Porsche 911 Club Coupe is Spectacular, And Everything Wrong with the Porsche Market

Slideshow: The 2026 Porsche 911 Club Coupe is being resold $150K above sticker and that is a real problem.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-21 11:52:54


VIEW MORE
story-1
Talos Takes Your 991 Porsche 911 GT3 to the Next Level for a Cool $1.13 Million

Slideshow: Talos Vehicles has transformed the Porsche 911 GT3 RS into a carbon-bodied, race-inspired machine that costs well over $1 million before the donor car is even included.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-19 13:39:04


VIEW MORE
story-2
9 Vehicles Porsche Helped Engineer that Aren't Porsches

Slideshow: Long before engineering consulting became trendy, Porsche was quietly helping other automakers build everything from supercars to economy hatchbacks.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-15 12:44:44


VIEW MORE
story-3
9 Features and Characteristics That Only Porsche People Understand

Slideshow: Some brands build cars. Porsche builds traditions, obsessions, and a few habits that stopped making sense decades ago but somehow became part of the charm.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-13 18:46:13


VIEW MORE
story-4
I've Written 500 Rennlist Articles: Here's How Porsche Has Changed Along the Way

Slideshow: Six years and 500 Rennlist articles later, these are the biggest changes at Porsche.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-11 09:52:55


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Most Unnecessary Porsches Ever Built (And Why We Love Them)

Slideshow: Some Porsches exist for very specific reasons-others feel like they were built just to see if anyone would notice.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-06 18:00:32


VIEW MORE
story-6
Porsche 911 GT3 S/C vs 718 Spyder RS: 10 Categories, One Winner

Slideshow: Choosing between the 911 GT3 S/C and 718 Spyder RS in 10 key categories to determine one surprising winner.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 12:51:46


VIEW MORE
story-7
This Builder Is Turning Heads With Its Slantnose 911 Creation

Slideshow: A small Polish tuner has reimagined the Porsche 911 Slantnose for the modern era, blending 1980s nostalgia with widebody tuning culture and serious performance upgrades.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-01 10:49:43


VIEW MORE
story-8
Porsche 911 GT3 Artisan Edition Pays Homage to Japanese Culture

Slideshow: Porsche has created a Japan-only 911 GT3 Artisan Edition that blends track-ready hardware with design cues inspired by traditional Japanese craftsmanship.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-28 19:37:40


VIEW MORE
story-9
Porsche Reveals Coupe Variant of the Electric Cayenne With a Fresh Look

Slideshow: Porsche's latest electric Cayenne Coupe blends dramatic styling with supercar acceleration, turning the brand's midsize SUV into a 1,139-horsepower flagship.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-27 19:39:30


VIEW MORE