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Old 07-13-2011, 01:31 PM
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Before and after data for alignment done by:

Dan's Precision Alignment
565 Westlake St # 200F
Encinitas, CA 92024-3763
(760) 753-0481

Dan knows the 928 and has the newer Hunter machine so the car is never lifted.

Much improved steering and tracking.
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you could fix the rears Camber by swapping in new upper control arm bushings on the dog bones,
and or also adding new lower control arm bushings
where the LCA attaches to the rear cross member
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Thanks, some day I am going to need this information.
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Originally Posted by Mrmerlin
you could fix the rears Camber by swapping in new upper control arm bushings on the dog bones,
and or also adding new lower control arm bushings
where the LCA attaches to the rear cross member
May do that - thanks.

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What does he charge, Randy?
$150 - took 1.5 hours. Just hang out in the shop while he does it.
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Why did he make the front caster, initially right on the money, grossly unequal? Honestly, the initial aligment was only off much in rear toe. Front toe was essentially zero, which usually drives pretty well.

Why did the rear camber increase from the initial alignment? All he should have touched in the rear is the toe adjusters and that should not effect camber.

Frankly, I wouldn't have been too thrilled with the results.
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Handles much better so very happy with the results, Bill!
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Randy, you are strange, but you knew that already.
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Originally Posted by Mrmerlin
you could fix the rears Camber by swapping in new upper control arm bushings on the dog bones,
and or also adding new lower control arm bushings
where the LCA attaches to the rear cross member
Any idea on what it would cost for the materials, and how much labor would be involved?

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Randy, you are strange, but you knew that already.
Perhaps the question should be: How many Bloody Marys did he have while the alignment was done...?
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Randy,

When you say the handling is "much better" one would think it might be "less twitchy" given the front toe setting before. Is that what you experienced or some other perception of improvement?

I would not have accpeted that difference in caster plus or minus 0.1 is what I look for at or around 5 degrees. I understand Porsche recommend 5 degrees of caster on later model specs but this is equally applicable on earlier [32V] models- the computers on alignment machines will show 4 degrees for earlier models but for your GTS I would have thought it would indicate 5 degrees as the target.

Best wishes

Fred
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Originally Posted by Bill Ball
Randy, you are strange, but you knew that already.
Your mother wears Army boots.



Originally Posted by FredR
Randy,

When you say the handling is "much better" one would think it might be "less twitchy" given the front toe setting before. Is that what you experienced or some other perception of improvement?

I would not have accpeted that difference in caster plus or minus 0.1 is what I look for at or around 5 degrees. I understand Porsche recommend 5 degrees of caster on later model specs but this is equally applicable on earlier [32V] models- the computers on alignment machines will show 4 degrees for earlier models but for your GTS I would have thought it would indicate 5 degrees as the target.

Best wishes

Fred

I neglected to mention that Dan does a free re-check after 1000 miles. We'll get it all dialed in then.
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Originally Posted by Bill51sdr
What does he charge, Randy?
One hundred fifty bucks.

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I guess I could have read the thread more carefully and found that out rather than calling him. It was interesting though because he said he didn't like to do them and he really likes to get paid. I took that to mean that he charges more than usual for the 928s than perhaps other cars.

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Originally Posted by Bill Ball
Randy, you are strange, but you knew that already.
Bill,
Yes he is, but it is a GOOD Kind of Strange,....he fits right in with the rest of us!



Randy,

If you find you need new bushings for the dog bones as Stan suggested, I got you covered. Just let us know and they are yours.

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Originally Posted by Bill Ball
Why did he make the front caster, initially right on the money, grossly unequal? Honestly, the initial aligment was only off much in rear toe. Front toe was essentially zero, which usually drives pretty well.

Why did the rear camber increase from the initial alignment? All he should have touched in the rear is the toe adjusters and that should not effect camber.

Frankly, I wouldn't have been too thrilled with the results.
Most alignment shops will put a bit more caster into the right side of the car to keep the car from pulling to the right from the "crown" of the road. The difference between those two caster numbers is insignificant, in terms of tire wear, but should make the car drive pretty darn straight on the "average' California crowned road.

As the bushings in these cars wear, sometimes you have to choose between the "proper" rear camber or the "proper" rear toe. Obviously, this shop thought that the proper toe was more important than a little bit more camber....and they are probably right.



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