Easy Carbon Fiber Wrap anything internal and external
05-14-2011, 02:06 AM
#151
Former Vendor
I think the indignation about putting "fake carbon fiber" on or in a "PORSCHE" is somewhat misplaced. Let's not forget that the factory elected to use a large amount of fairly cheap plastic all over the interior of their flagship car. I think the indignation should start there.
Di-Noc from 3M is an extremely high quality surface treatment and carbon fiber is but one among hundreds of colors and textures. I like it, and I use it. It has nothing to do with imitating anything. It as everything to do about creating interesting surfaces, light effects, texture effects.
I have been using Di-Noc extensively lately. As a wrap, it is probably one of the most difficult to use and install. But it is also one of the best, both in terms of looks and performance. Those who have the new window switch panel from Hans and I, can certainly attest to the quality of the surface finish.
For the record, I am in the process of wrapping my own car. I am doing so over a new $10K paint job. And for those with an opinion on the subject, please keep in mind that wraps are exactly like paint jobs. There are 10 and 15 thousands dollar jobs and there are some $300.00 jobs
Just as a hint, I am taking my car apart much further for the wrap than it was for the paint job.
At the end of the day, a wrap, wether carbon fiber or otherwise, is just like paint. It's a surface treatment, and as such, it's matter of taste.
Paul
Di-Noc from 3M is an extremely high quality surface treatment and carbon fiber is but one among hundreds of colors and textures. I like it, and I use it. It has nothing to do with imitating anything. It as everything to do about creating interesting surfaces, light effects, texture effects.
I have been using Di-Noc extensively lately. As a wrap, it is probably one of the most difficult to use and install. But it is also one of the best, both in terms of looks and performance. Those who have the new window switch panel from Hans and I, can certainly attest to the quality of the surface finish.
For the record, I am in the process of wrapping my own car. I am doing so over a new $10K paint job. And for those with an opinion on the subject, please keep in mind that wraps are exactly like paint jobs. There are 10 and 15 thousands dollar jobs and there are some $300.00 jobs
Just as a hint, I am taking my car apart much further for the wrap than it was for the paint job.
At the end of the day, a wrap, wether carbon fiber or otherwise, is just like paint. It's a surface treatment, and as such, it's matter of taste.
Paul
05-14-2011, 03:45 AM
#152
Nordschleife Master
^^^^^^
Well put my friend! Very well put indeed! Leave it to our artist in-residence to explain it best!
Thanks for all your great work Paul...I did not realize the window switches I have were covered in Di-Noc...I like it BTW and that is what we will be doing for the trim stuff around the flat panel when that is all ready to go too! YEE HA!
Can't wait to see your work of art with your car!
BTW, if you guys want to be really disgusted by interior trim work just look at the early Boxsters and 996's...those cars had the worst and cheapest looking interiors I ever saw...they were TERRIBLE! I remember the first Boxster I instructed in at the race track and the first 996 I drove...just shook my head in disgust!
Well put my friend! Very well put indeed! Leave it to our artist in-residence to explain it best!
Thanks for all your great work Paul...I did not realize the window switches I have were covered in Di-Noc...I like it BTW and that is what we will be doing for the trim stuff around the flat panel when that is all ready to go too! YEE HA!
Can't wait to see your work of art with your car!
BTW, if you guys want to be really disgusted by interior trim work just look at the early Boxsters and 996's...those cars had the worst and cheapest looking interiors I ever saw...they were TERRIBLE! I remember the first Boxster I instructed in at the race track and the first 996 I drove...just shook my head in disgust!
05-14-2011, 07:57 AM
#153
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Well put Paul. Can't wait to see the car wrap.
I have a couple of small projects that I want to try with this stuff too. But if one is not careful it can look haphazard.
I have a couple of small projects that I want to try with this stuff too. But if one is not careful it can look haphazard.
05-14-2011, 11:28 AM
#154
Burning Brakes
I think the indignation about putting "fake carbon fiber" on or in a "PORSCHE" is somewhat misplaced. Let's not forget that the factory elected to use a large amount of fairly cheap plastic all over the interior of their flagship car. I think the indignation should start there.
Di-Noc from 3M is an extremely high quality surface treatment and carbon fiber is but one among hundreds of colors and textures. I like it, and I use it. It has nothing to do with imitating anything. It as everything to do about creating interesting surfaces, light effects, texture effects.
I have been using Di-Noc extensively lately. As a wrap, it is probably one of the most difficult to use and install. But it is also one of the best, both in terms of looks and performance. Those who have the new window switch panel from Hans and I, can certainly attest to the quality of the surface finish.
For the record, I am in the process of wrapping my own car. I am doing so over a new $10K paint job. And for those with an opinion on the subject, please keep in mind that wraps are exactly like paint jobs. There are 10 and 15 thousands dollar jobs and there are some $300.00 jobs
Just as a hint, I am taking my car apart much further for the wrap than it was for the paint job.
At the end of the day, a wrap, wether carbon fiber or otherwise, is just like paint. It's a surface treatment, and as such, it's matter of taste.
Paul
Di-Noc from 3M is an extremely high quality surface treatment and carbon fiber is but one among hundreds of colors and textures. I like it, and I use it. It has nothing to do with imitating anything. It as everything to do about creating interesting surfaces, light effects, texture effects.
I have been using Di-Noc extensively lately. As a wrap, it is probably one of the most difficult to use and install. But it is also one of the best, both in terms of looks and performance. Those who have the new window switch panel from Hans and I, can certainly attest to the quality of the surface finish.
For the record, I am in the process of wrapping my own car. I am doing so over a new $10K paint job. And for those with an opinion on the subject, please keep in mind that wraps are exactly like paint jobs. There are 10 and 15 thousands dollar jobs and there are some $300.00 jobs
Just as a hint, I am taking my car apart much further for the wrap than it was for the paint job.
At the end of the day, a wrap, wether carbon fiber or otherwise, is just like paint. It's a surface treatment, and as such, it's matter of taste.
Paul
05-14-2011, 11:54 AM
#155
So do you have any pics of the process or preparation? Or maybe the outcome? I think many of us would love to see it. I think it would be best to offset the fuzzyness of alacantara or suede.
I think the indignation about putting "fake carbon fiber" on or in a "PORSCHE" is somewhat misplaced. Let's not forget that the factory elected to use a large amount of fairly cheap plastic all over the interior of their flagship car. I think the indignation should start there.
Di-Noc from 3M is an extremely high quality surface treatment and carbon fiber is but one among hundreds of colors and textures. I like it, and I use it. It has nothing to do with imitating anything. It as everything to do about creating interesting surfaces, light effects, texture effects.
I have been using Di-Noc extensively lately. As a wrap, it is probably one of the most difficult to use and install. But it is also one of the best, both in terms of looks and performance. Those who have the new window switch panel from Hans and I, can certainly attest to the quality of the surface finish.
For the record, I am in the process of wrapping my own car. I am doing so over a new $10K paint job. And for those with an opinion on the subject, please keep in mind that wraps are exactly like paint jobs. There are 10 and 15 thousands dollar jobs and there are some $300.00 jobs
Just as a hint, I am taking my car apart much further for the wrap than it was for the paint job.
At the end of the day, a wrap, wether carbon fiber or otherwise, is just like paint. It's a surface treatment, and as such, it's matter of taste.
Paul
Di-Noc from 3M is an extremely high quality surface treatment and carbon fiber is but one among hundreds of colors and textures. I like it, and I use it. It has nothing to do with imitating anything. It as everything to do about creating interesting surfaces, light effects, texture effects.
I have been using Di-Noc extensively lately. As a wrap, it is probably one of the most difficult to use and install. But it is also one of the best, both in terms of looks and performance. Those who have the new window switch panel from Hans and I, can certainly attest to the quality of the surface finish.
For the record, I am in the process of wrapping my own car. I am doing so over a new $10K paint job. And for those with an opinion on the subject, please keep in mind that wraps are exactly like paint jobs. There are 10 and 15 thousands dollar jobs and there are some $300.00 jobs
Just as a hint, I am taking my car apart much further for the wrap than it was for the paint job.
At the end of the day, a wrap, wether carbon fiber or otherwise, is just like paint. It's a surface treatment, and as such, it's matter of taste.
Paul
05-14-2011, 11:58 AM
#156
Paul, didn't know they make an Ostrich leather wrap, will make it kinda hard to wax though. 
05-14-2011, 01:03 PM
#157
Former Vendor
If the surface is sound, or new as in my case, you clean, clean and then clean again. There is a promoter to use on the edges, and then everything is in the technique. Just practice.
By the time I'm done, I will have wrapped the car at least twice. But I am more critical of details than most.
Carbon fiber is very hard to install on a large surface, it you want it perfect. That is, with no waves in the lines. Small compound curves are easy and quite fun to do.
I don't like to share pictures, or discuss my own projects before they are done. Like I said before, these things are a matter of personal taste and as such, one's decisions for his/her own car should not be open to general discussion. There are too many people who actually do nothing on their own but are so very quick to knock down anyone else's efforts.
But since you asked, here is a small preview (unfortunately, it doesn't even come close to illustrate the actual effect on the car):
The body of the car is in a gold pearl. In some angles it is matte, in other angles it becomes more brilliant than a metallic paint.
The hood, rocker panels, mirrors and the wing are in a matching, gold carbon fiber. Window trims are in a dark brown carbon fiber.
I won't post any other pictures until the project is done and that will take a while since I have so very little time to work on my own car.
Paul
05-14-2011, 01:04 PM
#158
Burning Brakes
Earlier in the thread I posted about some type of wrap I used that sucked well I ordered the Di-noc and it is much better. I did the mirrors, headlight covers, and sunroof on my 944. It is much easier to work with but if you want it to look perfect you need time, patience and four hands. I messed up like half my roll just having to redo things and its still not perfect.
05-14-2011, 01:19 PM
#160
Rennlist Member
ooooooo.... i have a hypothesis....
if they made a "dimpled" wrap, would it have the same effect as dimples on a golf ball.... reducing resistance....
maybe an easy way to break 200mph................
if they made a "dimpled" wrap, would it have the same effect as dimples on a golf ball.... reducing resistance....
maybe an easy way to break 200mph................
05-14-2011, 01:24 PM
#161
Burning Brakes
05-14-2011, 01:40 PM
#162
I knew you would be awesome at it Paul. Some people just have... Talent in things.
Spectacular idea Paul. I appreciate your sharing.
I have decided to use many of the body pieces from my 78 on the 86.5 possibly. That would mean that everything but the roof and the B pillar area and under the doors would be a dark silver. I was "thinking" about using this on that area to make it sort of like the R8 with the two-tone look. But I don't know how difficult it is to just do sections.
It looks like it is.
Maybe a new... Business venture for you.
Many times the concern is what is left when you take it off. Or how to wash the car.
Spectacular idea Paul. I appreciate your sharing.
I have decided to use many of the body pieces from my 78 on the 86.5 possibly. That would mean that everything but the roof and the B pillar area and under the doors would be a dark silver. I was "thinking" about using this on that area to make it sort of like the R8 with the two-tone look. But I don't know how difficult it is to just do sections.
It looks like it is.
Maybe a new... Business venture for you.
Many times the concern is what is left when you take it off. Or how to wash the car.
For the exterior, the prep process is basically the same as for a good paint job.
If the surface is sound, or new as in my case, you clean, clean and then clean again. There is a promoter to use on the edges, and then everything is in the technique. Just practice.
By the time I'm done, I will have wrapped the car at least twice. But I am more critical of details than most.
Carbon fiber is very hard to install on a large surface, it you want it perfect. That is, with no waves in the lines. Small compound curves are easy and quite fun to do.
I don't like to share pictures, or discuss my own projects before they are done. Like I said before, these things are a matter of personal taste and as such, one's decisions for his/her own car should not be open to general discussion. There are too many people who actually do nothing on their own but are so very quick to knock down anyone else's efforts.
But since you asked, here is a small preview (unfortunately, it doesn't even come close to illustrate the actual effect on the car):
The body of the car is in a gold pearl. In some angles it is matte, in other angles it becomes more brilliant than a metallic paint.
The hood, rocker panels, mirrors and the wing are in a matching, gold carbon fiber. Window trims are in a dark brown carbon fiber.
I won't post any other pictures until the project is done and that will take a while since I have so very little time to work on my own car.
Paul
If the surface is sound, or new as in my case, you clean, clean and then clean again. There is a promoter to use on the edges, and then everything is in the technique. Just practice.
By the time I'm done, I will have wrapped the car at least twice. But I am more critical of details than most.
Carbon fiber is very hard to install on a large surface, it you want it perfect. That is, with no waves in the lines. Small compound curves are easy and quite fun to do.
I don't like to share pictures, or discuss my own projects before they are done. Like I said before, these things are a matter of personal taste and as such, one's decisions for his/her own car should not be open to general discussion. There are too many people who actually do nothing on their own but are so very quick to knock down anyone else's efforts.
But since you asked, here is a small preview (unfortunately, it doesn't even come close to illustrate the actual effect on the car):
The body of the car is in a gold pearl. In some angles it is matte, in other angles it becomes more brilliant than a metallic paint.
The hood, rocker panels, mirrors and the wing are in a matching, gold carbon fiber. Window trims are in a dark brown carbon fiber.
I won't post any other pictures until the project is done and that will take a while since I have so very little time to work on my own car.
Paul
05-14-2011, 05:11 PM
#165
