pcar928fan

I agree with Greg...the only one I have see that comes close to that is in my garage (now the Ingram89 and Kermit might even be closer than mine)...BLUE82! The car is AMAZING...but PERFECT...no. Black marks where the front license plate rubber spacers were and like 2 or 3 little rock chips... BUT, that is NOT PERFECT!

You should see what ebay will do for you since the PO ain't talkin'! That is BS to do stuff like that. It isn't like he didn't know those things were not working properly either more than likely!

Champagne

If this is the car I think it is, they are not GTS quarter panels. Some could argue that they are better

Paul

blown 87

Some of the things can just happen when a car sits, I have seen the very same things happen on a 928 due to not being driven.
I now know which car that is, be glad you got it for 19 and fix the little issues it has and move on.

It is a very nice car.

Mrmerlin

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...7-5-speed.html

After reading through this post I think that you have a some minor items to address,
this car looks to be a lot nicer than most.
Its possible that the issues you have found can be fixed in a few hours.

Should you have to be fixing things, well for the price i would say no,
but OTOH your new ride will be a one of a kind ride.!
Spend some time,
go through all of the systems and remedy the worn parts.
You will soon be riding in style!

beentherebaby

When some one takes your money and then stops responding to inquires you know there is a problem. With a laundry list of discrepancies things do not look good. Maybe e-bay will do something but I wouldn't hold my breath. It's worth an inquiry IMO.

blown 87

Maybe the seller has problems in his life, a health issue, or a family problem, could be any number of things as to why he has not responded so far, and that is not much of a laundry list as far as what has been posted here so far.

The buyer did not do a PPI and found a couple of problems, problems that many, many 928's have, fix them and move on.

Jadz928

^^^
I'm with you Greg on this one. I know of this car and it is clear the money was spent on the paint and interior, at minimum.

Alot of folks sell these cars short as you draw a comparison to your own purchase - which makes sense that one would do it, but it's not logical or fair.
Just because you spent $8K or 13K for your S4 doesn't mean that others cannot command more.
Carl's S4 was underpriced at $20. I wouldn't sell mine for $20K either, and mine needs more work that this guy's short-list.
Consider their cars may be farther along in their journey toward sorted.
Or maybe you got a screaming deal.... well, great! But I bet you 928 needs some work too.

So maybe it's self-righteous to call "PPI", and maybe it's self righteous to assume the guy overpaid because he paid more than you.
I just thinks it's best for him to buck up and get on the journey to meeting his own expectaions.

Mike LaBranche

Flawless car = oxymoron. No such beast.

It's all a matter of perspective. If you've spent any miles lodged in the seat of a 928 you know...

- the cruise usually doesn't work, but who cares? keep your foot on the pedal;
- odo's usually have busted gears, but who cares? we play how many miles you got? games all the time;
- ps, cam towers, tc seals... all leak, hell they're old. replace them and get on with it;
- rear hatch release almost never works, they gave you a key;
- vacuum gremlims, electric gremlims, relays, all issues at any given moment in time, no matter how much maintenance you do;
- the more they sit, the faster they die.

If that's the car in the ebay link, looks like a helluva car. It's been sitting. Fix the leaks and whatever else bugs you... and go drive the **** out of it.

danglerb

Rennlist does not mean no PPI needed.

Best of luck in the resolution of your issues. You might want to list them out in detail and see if the forum can't help you better than the PO.

beentherebaby

How long does it take to answer an e-mail? The car certainly doesn't appear to be as advertised. I think some folks are rationalizing inappropriate behavior by the seller.

We can respectfully disagree but don't fault the buyer for the seller's failure to respond appropriately. Sure there could be some issues going on but the seller had time to take the money, right?

whiteNSXs

I understand that the buyer has the ultimate responsibility to verify the condition of the car. But it should not be an excuse for a seller to misrepresent the car either. I don't think it is ethical to state the odometer "reads" a certain mileage when in fact the odometer is nonfunctional. On the DMV paper, there is always a question about the accuracy of the odometer and the seller is required to disclose any problem.
Steve

EspritS4s

This car is well known here, and the Ebay auction thread was heavily viewed at the time. The seller put a lot of money into this car, and the buyer is getting far more in return than many 928 buyers (the paint job alone justifies this). That being said, caveat emptor and sold as is always applies with a private party vehicle purchase. Ebay won't get involved unless there is obvious fraud, which does not appear to be the case here. At worst the seller could be accused of optimistic advertising. I feel for the buyer as he paid a hefty premium. However, with some relatively minor additional work, I think the car could be brought up to the standard that you were expecting. I don't think that the seller advertised the car as a concourse original car. instead, this is a car that has had a lot of work put into it, doesn't mean all the flaws have been corrected.

jcorenman

Well, on the one hand, the ad did say that everything worked. And some things don't-- but I assume all the important stuff works??

And on the other hand, in my opinion the paint and the interior are worth the price, assuming that all the important stuff works. The car, from the pictures, looks spectacular.

And of course the buyer's negotiating position diminishes greatly once the cash changes hands. With all respect to your frustration, the opportunity for remedies from the seller has passed. EBay can be a bitch that way.

So the bride has some warts; she's still a sweetheart and a pile of fun. Check the basics and then take her on a long get-acquainted drive, then start working through the issues-- none sound very serious. Console R&R to fix the odo is a few hours, ditto fitting a rebuilt steering rack, radio and heater and cruise will need some electrical troubleshooting-- there's lots of folks here who can help. (If the radio is a CDR-220-- the ad said CD-220, whatever that is-- then I can help with that).

A few weekends, a few $K in parts, and she will be worth $19K!

GregBBRD

Every single 25 year old car is going to have flaws...regardless of how much you pay. Hell, new cars have flaws....that's why they have warranties.

If you are happy with the general condition of the car and all you have to fix is those few items, you didn't get ripped off. If you have to put less than 5K into any used 928, you did fine.

Continue to try and get in touch with the seller. Sounds like you've got about $1500 worth of stuff to fix, if that is all that you can find wrong. See if he will "help" you with the repairs....maybe split the costs....since he represented the thing to be flawless....which was a mistake.

If you can't get in touch with him, fix it and enjoy.

docmirror

Man, what a bunch of compromisers we have on here. People I've been blogging with for a long time making excuses about a car that was described as "issue-free" and "everything functions properly". It sounds like every S4 that's been advertised and sold over the past 5-ish years. This kind of stuff that needs doing is common 928 stuff, and should have been taken care of before the car left the seller, if he wants to advertise it that way.

Sad. Maybe more sad is that someone traded on their rep in RL to take advantage. I don't know the seller or buyer, but my opinion of everyone on here just took a few ****** in the armor that is RL 928 forum.