928 vs. 350Z - what to do with $15,000
10-28-2010, 10:47 AM
#136
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Not a break just a brief history lesson.
The 1980's had four production supercars --928--- Testarossa-- Espirit--- Countach
The 1980's had 2 limited prod. hypercars - 288 GTO and the 959.
Of the supercars the 928 was by far the best built/engineered and most luxurious. It was also faster than the espirit and Countach. Show me one of the others that has 200K miles and still daily drives! The 928 held a land speed record.
I see your a TT owner. I like N/A engines, slapping a turbo on an engine does not make the car super. Check out what some 928's do with TT's. Exotic looks (low and wide), the right suspension, the right materials, and a top notch interior make a supercar. The 1980's 911 turbo was a small spartan no frills car that Porsche slapped a turbo on which made it a dangerous spartan no frills sportscar. Only now has it grown up.
The 928 is an 80's supercar and will always be one.
funny thing my 85 euro beats both these
10-28-2010, 11:58 AM
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Not a break just a brief history lesson.
The 1980's had four production supercars --928--- Testarossa-- Espirit--- Countach
The 1980's had 2 limited prod. hypercars - 288 GTO and the 959.
Of the supercars the 928 was by far the best built/engineered and most luxurious. It was also faster than the espirit and Countach. Show me one of the others that has 200K miles and still daily drives! The 928 held a land speed record.
I see your a TT owner. I like N/A engines, slapping a turbo on an engine does not make the car super. Check out what some 928's do with TT's. Exotic looks (low and wide), the right suspension, the right materials, and a top notch interior make a supercar. The 1980's 911 turbo was a small spartan no frills car that Porsche slapped a turbo on which made it a dangerous spartan no frills sportscar. Only now has it grown up.
The 928 is an 80's supercar and will always be one.
funny thing my 85 euro beats both these
The 1980's had four production supercars --928--- Testarossa-- Espirit--- Countach
The 1980's had 2 limited prod. hypercars - 288 GTO and the 959.
Of the supercars the 928 was by far the best built/engineered and most luxurious. It was also faster than the espirit and Countach. Show me one of the others that has 200K miles and still daily drives! The 928 held a land speed record.
I see your a TT owner. I like N/A engines, slapping a turbo on an engine does not make the car super. Check out what some 928's do with TT's. Exotic looks (low and wide), the right suspension, the right materials, and a top notch interior make a supercar. The 1980's 911 turbo was a small spartan no frills car that Porsche slapped a turbo on which made it a dangerous spartan no frills sportscar. Only now has it grown up.
The 928 is an 80's supercar and will always be one.
funny thing my 85 euro beats both these
That's some mighty fine Pwnage (H20)
10-28-2010, 12:02 PM
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Well, I think it is time for me to chime in here as I have owned both. I loved the Z because it is a fun car. It tempts you to want to play. However, when you do play with it hard, it tends to break. One of the reasons I have owned at least one 928 over the last 20 years is that no matter how hard I play with it, If I keep up with the maintenance, it does not break. Not once. I have slid around curves, done donuts in intersections, burnouts just for the fun of it and many, many top end runs. In my opinion, there has never been a better car invented than the 928.
My 2 cents worth,
My 2 cents worth,
10-28-2010, 12:53 PM
#139
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My old stock '86 32-valve 5-speed could take a 350Z. It was quite close, but I would inch away from it regardless of what speed we started. At triple digits I would start walking away faster.
No with my GT, I just laugh at them. I wonder how long a 350Z engine and transmission with over 400rwhp would last? Do you think it would make it past 230k miles without rebuilds?
Dan
'91 928GT S/C
475hp/460lb.ft
No with my GT, I just laugh at them. I wonder how long a 350Z engine and transmission with over 400rwhp would last? Do you think it would make it past 230k miles without rebuilds?
Dan
'91 928GT S/C
475hp/460lb.ft
10-28-2010, 12:53 PM
#140
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Not a break just a brief history lesson.
The 1980's had four production supercars --928--- Testarossa-- Espirit--- Countach
The 1980's had 2 limited prod. hypercars - 288 GTO and the 959.
Of the supercars the 928 was by far the best built/engineered and most luxurious. It was also faster than the espirit and Countach. Show me one of the others that has 200K miles and still daily drives! The 928 held a land speed record.
I see your a TT owner. I like N/A engines, slapping a turbo on an engine does not make the car super. Check out what some 928's do with TT's. Exotic looks (low and wide), the right suspension, the right materials, and a top notch interior make a supercar. The 1980's 911 turbo was a small spartan no frills car that Porsche slapped a turbo on which made it a dangerous spartan no frills sportscar. Only now has it grown up.
The 928 is an 80's supercar and will always be one.
funny thing my 85 euro beats both these
The 1980's had four production supercars --928--- Testarossa-- Espirit--- Countach
The 1980's had 2 limited prod. hypercars - 288 GTO and the 959.
Of the supercars the 928 was by far the best built/engineered and most luxurious. It was also faster than the espirit and Countach. Show me one of the others that has 200K miles and still daily drives! The 928 held a land speed record.
I see your a TT owner. I like N/A engines, slapping a turbo on an engine does not make the car super. Check out what some 928's do with TT's. Exotic looks (low and wide), the right suspension, the right materials, and a top notch interior make a supercar. The 1980's 911 turbo was a small spartan no frills car that Porsche slapped a turbo on which made it a dangerous spartan no frills sportscar. Only now has it grown up.
The 928 is an 80's supercar and will always be one.
funny thing my 85 euro beats both these
10-28-2010, 01:09 PM
#142
Drifting
I was driving these cars, 911's, jags, vettes and others in the 80's, reading all the mags, watching the limited TV coverage. Facts are facts.
And yes I do. but that's another story and at least it's based on facts.
10-28-2010, 01:56 PM
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From wikicars...
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Porsche was still a young company when the 928 coupe was released - barely 28 years old. The 928 marked a radical departure for the company, a change in direction from the slowly developing 911 model, with quirky dynamics, to a visually arresting V8 powered front engined coupe, with flawless 50/50 weight distribution and lavish use of exotic materials such as aluminium and polyurethane - both still in their infancy, as far as car manufacturing was concerned. The 928 was to be a technical masterpiece for the young company, and would certainly put the small Stuttgart concern on the supercar map.
The looks, in the launch year of 1978, were like nothing before seen on a car - even in science fiction films. The long, sleek bonnet, and cab-backward stance screamed performance and sophistication, with the smooth front and rear bumper sections showing very few signs of US-obligatory crash protection - the market for which the 928 had undoubtedly been built for. Despite the American influence to the design, the car won the 'European Car of the Year' gong in 1978, and remains to this day the only supercar ever to win the award - testament to the universal appeal of Porsche's new model. "
"
Porsche was still a young company when the 928 coupe was released - barely 28 years old. The 928 marked a radical departure for the company, a change in direction from the slowly developing 911 model, with quirky dynamics, to a visually arresting V8 powered front engined coupe, with flawless 50/50 weight distribution and lavish use of exotic materials such as aluminium and polyurethane - both still in their infancy, as far as car manufacturing was concerned. The 928 was to be a technical masterpiece for the young company, and would certainly put the small Stuttgart concern on the supercar map.
The looks, in the launch year of 1978, were like nothing before seen on a car - even in science fiction films. The long, sleek bonnet, and cab-backward stance screamed performance and sophistication, with the smooth front and rear bumper sections showing very few signs of US-obligatory crash protection - the market for which the 928 had undoubtedly been built for. Despite the American influence to the design, the car won the 'European Car of the Year' gong in 1978, and remains to this day the only supercar ever to win the award - testament to the universal appeal of Porsche's new model. "
10-28-2010, 02:09 PM
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I have driven a 350z and g35 numerous times whether it be drifting or long road trips to FL. Both cars are quick, reliable and very well balanced for everyday use and some abuse. The ride is a bit harsh, but nothing unbearable. Long road trips (900+ miles) get tiring and you become restless in both cars.
Unfortunately, even $15k in mods will not make either one feel like a Porsche (but it will make it a very capable track car). This isn't to say the z & g35 don't have any soul, just not the soul of a Porsche. I am also not a big fan of the feel of the 6 cyl in the 350z and g35. However, it does get considerably better gas mileage.
I haven't had time to follow this entire thread but my advice to you is test drive both cars on different roads before you make your decision.
Unfortunately, even $15k in mods will not make either one feel like a Porsche (but it will make it a very capable track car). This isn't to say the z & g35 don't have any soul, just not the soul of a Porsche. I am also not a big fan of the feel of the 6 cyl in the 350z and g35. However, it does get considerably better gas mileage.
I haven't had time to follow this entire thread but my advice to you is test drive both cars on different roads before you make your decision.
10-28-2010, 04:17 PM
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In my honest opinion $15k will get you a well sorted out early S4. If you can, find a manual transmission one. 350Zs are nice cars. I wouldn't mind owning one too, but it's no Porsche.
Any Z with the VQ35HR motor will be faster than the 928, even a manual transmission GTS unless it's a supercharged 928.
Any Z with the VQ35HR motor will be faster than the 928, even a manual transmission GTS unless it's a supercharged 928.
10-28-2010, 06:26 PM
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the 3S platform has downfalls, what car doesn't?
the transmission though was traced back to mitsu and getrag...recall for saftey, when it breaks just bring it back to em. i know of TT with over 200k on em, original engine. i have only 76k original.
928s4 vs. a vr4, bout even, comes to driver. the s4 might be quicker as it weighs less. get em from 94 on, they weigh less and don't have pop ups, so not as dated.
don't get me wrong, the 928 is one of my next 3 cars. it's just getting hard to find em, especially with options i want
the transmission though was traced back to mitsu and getrag...recall for saftey, when it breaks just bring it back to em. i know of TT with over 200k on em, original engine. i have only 76k original.
928s4 vs. a vr4, bout even, comes to driver. the s4 might be quicker as it weighs less. get em from 94 on, they weigh less and don't have pop ups, so not as dated.
don't get me wrong, the 928 is one of my next 3 cars. it's just getting hard to find em, especially with options i want
10-28-2010, 06:31 PM
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Yea, they built so few (relatively speaking anyway) 928's that you can't get to picky about options or you will never find the car you are looking for. Always ends up being a compromise when buying a used car. There are some VERY NICE ones out there still. Afshin's AMAZING car and the 5spd S4 down in San Antonio (I have no affiliation with either car btw) come to mind.
Yea, they built so few (relatively speaking anyway) 928's that you can't get to picky about options or you will never find the car you are looking for. Always ends up being a compromise when buying a used car. There are some VERY NICE ones out there still. Afshin's AMAZING car and the 5spd S4 down in San Antonio (I have no affiliation with either car btw) come to mind.
10-28-2010, 07:35 PM
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10-28-2010, 09:23 PM
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im simply stating when and if the trans goes, the dealer replaces it for FREE, not that bad imo. also if it simply gets the right fluid put in it, it won't go on you more so than any other sports car. you beat on any car something will break. i'm just saying it's an option worth looking at. imo, i spend 5k on mine i'll have close to 550hp...can't argue it