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Old 02-05-2010, 02:32 PM
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Todd, here in Green Bay, repaired a water pump damaged block for me about 6 years ago.

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Old 02-05-2010, 02:34 PM
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I'm just confused.

I did offer the "928 community is small and we should not compete on the same product with each other" response to Roger's intrusion into "my" products, and I was shot down for it. "Are you afraid of a little competition?" I was asked.

All right. Thats the way the Renn wants it, I moved on.

Now I make a spacer, and the Renn wants to protect the guy who isnt making them anymore.

Silly me. I thought the Renn would be glad now that someone IS making them since Greg stopped.

Cant win. When you guys make up your mind which way you want it, let me know.
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Tim:

Great repair.

Carl has an excellent repair for this, now.

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Old 02-05-2010, 02:39 PM
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Gee, Tim, looks like Greg copied Todd!

Note - our water pump block repair is a completely different process than either of these. I developed my own solution, thank you.

For Chrisake - we are all following the the wake of DEVEK, Threshie, and others who have preceeded us. And they followed Thompson, Edelbrock, and Yunick. Sometimes we stumble down the same path.
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Old 02-05-2010, 02:42 PM
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Check this out:

https://rennlist.com/forums/5203831-post78.html


---Quote (Originally by GregBBRD)---
I initally contacted Louie about buying the pan spacers from him. He was not interested in making them and gave me permission to make them. I did not steal the idea. It was Louie's all the way and I got permission ---End Quote---

---Quote (Originally by GregBBRD)---
The company that made them burned up untold sheets of really nice aluminum....*they will be overjoyed that I don't aske them to make more, too.* ---End Quote---


So if I got this right, the guy accusing me of "copying" his product copied it from Louie Ott? And the guy that volunatrilly decided not to make them anymore is mad that someone else is?

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Sounds like a case of 'pot calling kettle black'
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Old 02-05-2010, 04:33 PM
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Carl:

Great of you to take up where I left off!

What a unique product!

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Carl:

Can't say enough about how cool this is.

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Old 02-05-2010, 04:40 PM
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It seems to me that 50% of Carl's new product threads go this way. Now, I'm not taking sides in this or any of these threads, it just amazing to me how often it happens. WTF?
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Old 02-05-2010, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by GregBBRD
Caught me!

I copied something I'd never seen...until I was done.

I spent $3,000 and two weeks designing and building prototypes, having tools made..so that people could use this tool to fix their own problems. I will never recover a penny of this...the inserts, consumables, and freight eat up every penny of the $200.00 that I ask people to pay. I did this for the community.

That's slightly different than copying something for personal gain...
I don't even know what Todd charged me. He said he had an idea for a fix so I told him to go for it. I'm guessing it was more than $200
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Old 02-05-2010, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mongo
Sounds like a case of 'pot calling kettle black'
Yup, that and whining.

Who's the patent holder? No patent? Then go tell your Mom. Maybe she'll be more sympathetic.
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If there is no patent on this, then there should be no complaints about the new product... just my honest opinion.
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Originally Posted by GregBBRD
Caught me!

I copied something I'd never seen...until I was done.

I spent $3,000 and two weeks designing and building prototypes, having tools made..so that people could use this tool to fix their own problems. I will never recover a penny of this...the inserts, consumables, and freight eat up every penny of the $200.00 that I ask people to pay. I did this for the community.

That's slightly different than copying something for personal gain...
It is a shame that Todd did not offer his tools that he made for the rest of the 928 folks at cost or below cost, you might have been able to save your money Greg.

The first I heard of any one else repairing a block was long after GB had came up with his fix.
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Carl:

I'm giddy that you made these for all of us.

Thanks so much!

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Originally Posted by GregBBRD
I can have no respect for someone who copies other's efforts.
You've already said that you made the oil pan spacer after seeing one made by someone else. Were you the first to make the intake side spacers that you've sold? No. Were you the first to build a 928 stroker motor? No. There were pictures of the block repair that Todd did posted years ago already. The level of hypocracy is funny, but not really surprising.
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