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Old 05-14-2009, 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by GregBBRD
Besides never starting the engine?
wheres the fun in that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 05-14-2009, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by IcemanG17
But those were in stock 928's.....GTS's come to mind Or did a european stroker loose an engine on the autobahn?
Two GT's that I've heard of.
Old 05-14-2009, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by IcemanG17
I agree the widow would be a BLAST with an extra 200hp.....but I don't think my marrige could support it right now Then you have to worry about how long the tranny will last too....
Don't tell your wife that you're seeing some tranny...
Old 05-14-2009, 02:16 PM
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remember, I have raced or been responsible for 5 928 engines at the track. all running 305s in the rear , R compound and all the laps over 10 years being under 2:05 at Thunderhill, with exception of the '79 running 2:10, but only with 200rwhp. (but think about the g loading since it didnt have the power to run that kind of time)

Oil foaming, oil levels, how you drive the car, prior damage, and the other 6 factors that Greg mentioned

knock knock!!!!

mk

Originally Posted by IcemanG17
I think lighweight 928's with larger R comps or slicks is a huge contributing factor on this too..... When I tracked sharky on street tires 235 front 265 rear and took the same corner I do in the widow, but much slower I hardly saw any oil pressure drop....using the same oil....vs the widow which would drop to 2.5 bar
Old 05-14-2009, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mark kibort
remember, I have raced or been responsible for 5 928 engines at the track. all running 305s in the rear , R compound and all the laps over 10 years being under 2:05 at Thunderhill, with exception of the '79 running 2:10, but only with 200rwhp. (but think about the g loading since it didnt have the power to run that kind of time)

Oil foaming, oil levels, how you drive the car, prior damage, and the other 6 factors that Greg mentioned

knock knock!!!!

mk
One day, you too, will experience the "joy" of rod bearing failure....and you might be a bit more humble. You've been "teasing" the "Car Gods" way too long. Their patience will end and you will be tested.
Old 05-14-2009, 04:20 PM
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I had a drilled crank failure in a 16v motor with 5L bottom end. But there were questions about the crank drilling and perhaps about the motor build (done by me). This was discussed in another thread:
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-thoughts.html

I don't think I am the one Dave C. referred to, as I hope I am only semi-retired....
Old 05-14-2009, 05:36 PM
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No matter what happens, I'm in the bonus round!

You really think I've been that lucky??? I should start selling rabbit foot key rings??? 10 full racing seasons, 5 different engines and platforms, no failures? Maybe my motors should be taken apart to see what makes them all tick! . Ive got more races than any 928 in the history of the platform with any single or multiple engine and NO DNFs. Plus, all the stuff is stock, not even an oil cooler!
And, we are not talking sloutch times on the track. Same times as Mark Anderson ran with his stroker with more weight than he normally runs, and DOT tires in 1999 and 2000 Speedvision WCGT with 100 less HP, so the G loading has to be equal or greater.

knock knock!

Kind of joking here, as you know. But seriously, when I've looked at my #2 and 6 bearings, they look normal. I havent broken the seal of the Holbert motor yet, but i would suspect the bearings are just fine. Im waiting for the blackstone results after a half of a season with the new stroker to see how the GreenBay stroker is running. i suspect, fine as the filter is looking clean at every change.

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One day, you too, will experience the "joy" of rod bearing failure....and you might be a bit more humble. You've been "teasing" the "Car Gods" way too long. Their patience will end and you will be tested.
Old 05-14-2009, 07:04 PM
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Now you're just offending the "Car Gods'".

Step away from Mark Kibirt. Lightening is about to strike.
Old 05-14-2009, 07:19 PM
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I think the Car Gods like me as proven how they have protected my #2, #6 bearings over the years.

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Now you're just offending the "Car Gods'".

Step away from Mark Kibirt. Lightening is about to strike.
Old 05-15-2009, 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by mark kibort
I think the Car Gods like me as proven how they have protected my #2, #6 bearings over the years.
I thought Amsoil did that.
Old 05-15-2009, 06:24 AM
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I'm not superstitious as a rule, but it seems this thread is degenerating to the "playing with fire while standing in a barrel of petrol" level.
Old 05-15-2009, 07:29 AM
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maybe there is something to Amsoil after all?
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And the other 6 factors I mentioned.

On a serious note, did you see the oil analysis I did after the second oil change of the stroker? perrrrrrfect!

mk



Originally Posted by GregBBRD
I thought Amsoil did that.
Old 05-15-2009, 06:20 PM
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Crickets............................
Old 05-15-2009, 08:57 PM
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fwiw, my oil analysis is perfect too.. over 10k miles, 3rd season of racing and street driving

imho, driving technique, warm up, etc play a big role. I've seen many novice racers tend to rev the crap out of stuff, and 928's make their power at a lot lower rpm than a 2 stroke, 4 or 6 banger. kinda like driving a harley in a pack of ricers/2 strokers - takes an effort NOT to overrev and use the low end torque/wide powerband to full advantage.

I also suspect some of greg's oil control magic might be helping mine too. sorry, no amsoil


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