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Old 05-13-2009, 08:40 PM
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Default 2-6 rod failures in "drilled" or stroker cranks?

With yet another 2-6 implosion on the list (besides mine) it got me thinking.....has anyone with an improved "drilled" crank (either stroker or drilled stock) had 2-6 rod bearing failures?

I don't know of a "stroker" with bearing failure...even those that are heavily tracked.....

Other thoughts-opinions?
Old 05-13-2009, 08:45 PM
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You should start a poll and include as to whether it was street driven or track driven. I can't recall the 2-6 failure happening on a street car, although it may have happened and I missed it.
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I believe there were some 2/6 failures on cars in Europe..Autobahn high rate of speed....
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Originally Posted by Tom. M
I believe there were some 2/6 failures on cars in Europe..Autobahn high rate of speed....
But those were in stock 928's.....GTS's come to mind Or did a european stroker loose an engine on the autobahn?

I can't think of a stroker having rod bearing failure..some have failed for other reasons after years of on track use....

I also don't know of a "drilled" crank stock or GTS crank that has had a failure?
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You should start a poll and include as to whether it was street driven or track driven. I can't recall the 2-6 failure happening on a street car, although it may have happened and I missed it.
I think lighweight 928's with larger R comps or slicks is a huge contributing factor on this too..... When I tracked sharky on street tires 235 front 265 rear and took the same corner I do in the widow, but much slower I hardly saw any oil pressure drop....using the same oil....vs the widow which would drop to 2.5 bar
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Without a drysump, and maybe an accusump they will fail when air is ingested.
Old 05-13-2009, 10:55 PM
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IIRC, there was an NE racer (now retired) that did toast a drilled-crank block on the track. However, in that instance there was a problem with the installed accusump.
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I just pulled my stroker apart , the rod bearing are perfect 7000 + rpm . the rest of the motor is not.
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Originally Posted by IcemanG17
I think lighweight 928's with larger R comps or slicks is a huge contributing factor on this too..... When I tracked sharky on street tires 235 front 265 rear and took the same corner I do in the widow, but much slower I hardly saw any oil pressure drop....using the same oil....vs the widow which would drop to 2.5 bar

Sustained lateral G forces = bad

Skinny tires = little to no maintenance. But you have to get used to watching a lot of other cars pass you.

225 / 245s and no raciing slicks = 2-6 starvation resistance

Since sustained lateral G forces = fun, well, ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

Good luck nailing the solution down. I hope stroker is the answer. Your car will be amazing with that kind of HP!
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Originally Posted by Abby
You should start a poll and include as to whether it was street driven or track driven. I can't recall the 2-6 failure happening on a street car, although it may have happened and I missed it.
I have around 45 track days on my street 928. 255 is the widest I have ever run. If you put wide stickies on a street car I would bet the car would suddenly be at risk. But not as muck as a track prepared car.
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Originally Posted by James-man
Good luck nailing the solution down. I hope stroker is the answer. Your car will be amazing with that kind of HP!
I agree the widow would be a BLAST with an extra 200hp.....but I don't think my marrige could support it right now Then you have to worry about how long the tranny will last too....
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Would love to add 16v'rs to the inquiry.
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Originally Posted by IcemanG17
With yet another 2-6 implosion on the list (besides mine) it got me thinking.....has anyone with an improved "drilled" crank (either stroker or drilled stock) had 2-6 rod bearing failures?

I don't know of a "stroker" with bearing failure...even those that are heavily tracked.....

Other thoughts-opinions?
They still fail...I've seen plenty. I keep telling you guys that there are 4-5 causes. Drilling only solves one.
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Greg,

Is there any way to completely protect the 2-6 area on the crank?
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Originally Posted by cold_beer839
Greg,

Is there any way to completely protect the 2-6 area on the crank?
Besides never starting the engine?


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