928...Did you know???
#301
Try taking away the Cayenne's V8 and sales will plummet.
I recorded a television show on my DVR that mentioned a major change at Porsche in the early '70s that spawned the introduction of the front-engined water-cooled cars. They said the Porsche family realized it was time for them to step aside and let industry experts take the helm.
The 928 was clearly the epitome of the front-engined campaign. Some say the world just could not accept the paradigm shift, others say Porsche just couldn't compete with other supercars in that genre and returned to its proven image, but I say that it was just their marketing efforts that failed.
My brother drives a 2000 996, and it is just an overweight, diluted, and water-cooled version of my '77 911.
The bean counters at Porsche must love the fact that they can keep selling the same basic body design for 40+ years. The 4-doored Panamera introduces a new and "practical" 928 with a usable back seat. A 6 cylinder won't even be considered because you cannot make the stroke long enough to produce the low-end torque to weight ratio the Bimmer buyers will expect from a Porsche.
My crystal ball says that Panamera will spawn a new 2 door (GTS?) if sales go well for a few years.
I recorded a television show on my DVR that mentioned a major change at Porsche in the early '70s that spawned the introduction of the front-engined water-cooled cars. They said the Porsche family realized it was time for them to step aside and let industry experts take the helm.
The 928 was clearly the epitome of the front-engined campaign. Some say the world just could not accept the paradigm shift, others say Porsche just couldn't compete with other supercars in that genre and returned to its proven image, but I say that it was just their marketing efforts that failed.
My brother drives a 2000 996, and it is just an overweight, diluted, and water-cooled version of my '77 911.
The bean counters at Porsche must love the fact that they can keep selling the same basic body design for 40+ years. The 4-doored Panamera introduces a new and "practical" 928 with a usable back seat. A 6 cylinder won't even be considered because you cannot make the stroke long enough to produce the low-end torque to weight ratio the Bimmer buyers will expect from a Porsche.
My crystal ball says that Panamera will spawn a new 2 door (GTS?) if sales go well for a few years.
#303
The new issue of motortrend has a Porsche update in it....they talk about the GT2...panamera & a 928!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Of course I doubt it will be called a 928...but you never know....they also mentioned a successor to the CGT..... They did say the Panmera will use the standard Cayenne engines-transmissions...so the 340-45-520hp V8's to start?
#304
Originally Posted by NickT
Useless information: In the late 1950's, the first diesel trains were called "Sharks" due to their profile.
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Did you know that most large 928 suspension nuts/bolts are M12x1.5 which is an odd size mostly used on German cars? M12x1.25 and M12x1.75 are the standard pitches.
#305
Originally Posted by 928ntslow
The 928 was the first production car to offer front engine/rear transaxle
#306
This IS interesting! I took this from Porsche print!
Maybe I am interpreting this wrong...I quote:
"Porsche is the only sports car manufacturer in the world to offer a front engine/rear transaxle design."
Yea, my bad, I guess I am wrong.
Maybe I am interpreting this wrong...I quote:
"Porsche is the only sports car manufacturer in the world to offer a front engine/rear transaxle design."
Yea, my bad, I guess I am wrong.
#307
Keith, that was probably true at the time.... if it was not printed between 1984-1987(or if you don't consider Alfa Romeo a "sports car manufacturer"). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo_90
Marketing-ese is a very flexible language
Marketing-ese is a very flexible language
#309
Originally Posted by 928ntslow
Who knows, the key word may be "Sports" Car
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transaxle
Notable F[ront engined]R[earwheel drive] vehicles with a transaxle design include:
* 1914-1939 Stutz Bearcat
* 1950-1958 Lancia Aurelia
* 1961-1963 Pontiac Tempest
* 1964-1968 Ferrari 275
* 1968-1973 Ferrari Daytona
* 1976-1988 Porsche 924
* 1978-1995 Porsche 928
* 1982-1991 Porsche 944
* 1992-1995 Porsche 968
* 1972-1992 Alfa Romeo 116-series
* 1985-1991 Volvo 300 series
* 1992-2003 Ferrari 456
* 1996-2005 Ferrari 550/575M
* 1997-up Chevrolet Corvette
* 2004-2005 Ferrari 612 Scaglietti
* 2004-up Cadillac XLR
#310
Three Wheelin'
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From: Gatineau/Ottawa Canada 84 928S triple black
Originally Posted by FlyingDog
Nope:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transaxle
Notable F[ront engined]R[earwheel drive] vehicles with a transaxle design include:
* 1914-1939 Stutz Bearcat
* 1950-1958 Lancia Aurelia
* 1961-1963 Pontiac Tempest
* 1964-1968 Ferrari 275
* 1968-1973 Ferrari Daytona
* 1976-1988 Porsche 924
* 1978-1995 Porsche 928
* 1982-1991 Porsche 944
* 1992-1995 Porsche 968
* 1972-1992 Alfa Romeo 116-series
* 1985-1991 Volvo 300 series
* 1992-2003 Ferrari 456
* 1996-2005 Ferrari 550/575M
* 1997-up Chevrolet Corvette
* 2004-2005 Ferrari 612 Scaglietti
* 2004-up Cadillac XLR
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transaxle
Notable F[ront engined]R[earwheel drive] vehicles with a transaxle design include:
* 1914-1939 Stutz Bearcat
* 1950-1958 Lancia Aurelia
* 1961-1963 Pontiac Tempest
* 1964-1968 Ferrari 275
* 1968-1973 Ferrari Daytona
* 1976-1988 Porsche 924
* 1978-1995 Porsche 928
* 1982-1991 Porsche 944
* 1992-1995 Porsche 968
* 1972-1992 Alfa Romeo 116-series
* 1985-1991 Volvo 300 series
* 1992-2003 Ferrari 456
* 1996-2005 Ferrari 550/575M
* 1997-up Chevrolet Corvette
* 2004-2005 Ferrari 612 Scaglietti
* 2004-up Cadillac XLR
In all fairness, it was a mid EngineTransaxle unit, the precurseur to the front/rear drive train
#311
I can't believe this one has not come up yet.
Most right hand drive specific parts are Numbered 927 --- --- --
There are some parts only used in cars for specific markets that happened to be RHD like Japan and the UK but the parts are 928 --- --- --
Most right hand drive specific parts are Numbered 927 --- --- --
There are some parts only used in cars for specific markets that happened to be RHD like Japan and the UK but the parts are 928 --- --- --
#312
Originally Posted by dprantl
Hehe, I think Porsche had enough after stealing Tatra's designs the first time and having to pay for it handsomely years later (how much was 3 million deutsch marks worth in 1961??). If they made a flat air-cooled V8 in the 928, they might have had another lawsuit on their hands from Ledwinka...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatra_cars)
Dan
'86 928S 5-spd w/LSD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatra_cars)
Dan
'86 928S 5-spd w/LSD
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...PHEN/tatra.htm
(also, fixed wikipedia link in above quote)
#314
Dave
It's one of those interesting things for those of us who live in countries where they drive on correct side of the road.
It always amazes me how many 927 parts there are - stuff I wouldn't think would be different on a RHD car yet it is.
Interesting note about the RHD P/Ns, Jon!
It always amazes me how many 927 parts there are - stuff I wouldn't think would be different on a RHD car yet it is.
#315
Originally Posted by heinrich
Did you know S4's (not sure which years) have "928" stamped into the window trim under the spoiler?