O.T.: Amazing NEW car care product
02-23-2006, 07:10 PM
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Heinrich
Thanks for the honest assessment. But, how big are those bloody pictures? LOL
The only comments I could make would be in deviating from the recommended usage instructions. i.e. why go to a cloth? The chamois is used because it traps the dirt and is easily rinsed. And using a used spray bottle
would make it extremely unlikely that you could drink the solution anymore! 
Thanks again for you help
Thanks for the honest assessment. But, how big are those bloody pictures? LOL
The only comments I could make would be in deviating from the recommended usage instructions. i.e. why go to a cloth? The chamois is used because it traps the dirt and is easily rinsed. And using a used spray bottle
would make it extremely unlikely that you could drink the solution anymore! Thanks again for you help
02-23-2006, 10:03 PM
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Brian, no worries 
..... I am one of those who won't follow the manual if I don't like what it says 
... and to kill my nice 30-dollar chammy ... uh-um .. no way Bud. I truly tried my best to give your stuff a fair shake, and I knew you'd say those things ... valid criticism for sure
..... I am one of those who won't follow the manual if I don't like what it says ... and to kill my nice 30-dollar chammy ... uh-um .. no way Bud. I truly tried my best to give your stuff a fair shake, and I knew you'd say those things ... valid criticism for sure
02-24-2006, 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Warren928
They sell a quick detail spray here in the US from meguirs that works great. No pyramid schemes, amway like meetings or independent business opportunitiy hassles needed!!!! Available at wally world and your all set.
I dont care what is in the stuff, as long as it cleans the car.
I dont care what is in the stuff, as long as it cleans the car.
All distributors will have to prove up front that they can support and carry on a business. They will be completely independent and other than an annual license fee able to carry on the job of making money any way they wish. The only costs involved will be buying concentrate from us at about $1/qt!
All the best
02-24-2006, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by heinrich
Looking at Beej's integrity thus far I have no doubt of that.
Appreciated.
02-26-2006, 04:45 AM
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I apologise for the misunderstanding
Ladies and gentlemen
My humble apologies.
Notwhitstanding the fact that this stuff works, and we are still waiting for posts from all the testers in the various forums, I humbly appologise for misleading you as to the business aspects of this product.
I sat down with the inventor this morning, a Mad Chinaman with a Fu Manchu beard, and received my first lesson in 'Business and marketing 101'.
The actual marketing/distributorship/licensing agreement for Magic Wash will be:
* You come up with a business plan which we approve of, ensuring adequate capitalisation to cover costs.
* After a license has been purchased we will advise on the requirements of production of the product.
* Your exclusive license for your area costs you XXXX amount of Australian dollars and gives you 5 years exclustivity for your market.
* There are NO yearly license fees for the first 5 years.
* You can renew your license after 5 years at a cost to be negotiated depending on your success/turnover.
* You can onsell your license at any time for a profit after approval from the parent company {Us!}.
* You can purchase concentrate, literature etc from us at very low cost. We have alredy filmed a TV ad which we will make available at no cost. Dub your own voiceover to suit your market.
* How you market the product is up to you. We will answer any queries and advise as necessary.
* You can engage/employ any distributors or demonstrators as you see fit. It is your market and we respect your right to work it as you will.
* With the correct marketing approach, i.e water saving, eco friendly, biodegradeable, drinkable/safe, this product is a shoe-in to be successful!
My humble apologies.
Notwhitstanding the fact that this stuff works, and we are still waiting for posts from all the testers in the various forums, I humbly appologise for misleading you as to the business aspects of this product.
I sat down with the inventor this morning, a Mad Chinaman with a Fu Manchu beard, and received my first lesson in 'Business and marketing 101'.
The actual marketing/distributorship/licensing agreement for Magic Wash will be:
* You come up with a business plan which we approve of, ensuring adequate capitalisation to cover costs.
* After a license has been purchased we will advise on the requirements of production of the product.
* Your exclusive license for your area costs you XXXX amount of Australian dollars and gives you 5 years exclustivity for your market.
* There are NO yearly license fees for the first 5 years.
* You can renew your license after 5 years at a cost to be negotiated depending on your success/turnover.
* You can onsell your license at any time for a profit after approval from the parent company {Us!}.
* You can purchase concentrate, literature etc from us at very low cost. We have alredy filmed a TV ad which we will make available at no cost. Dub your own voiceover to suit your market.
* How you market the product is up to you. We will answer any queries and advise as necessary.
* You can engage/employ any distributors or demonstrators as you see fit. It is your market and we respect your right to work it as you will.
* With the correct marketing approach, i.e water saving, eco friendly, biodegradeable, drinkable/safe, this product is a shoe-in to be successful!
02-26-2006, 05:48 AM
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Brian:
I'm waiting for the car to get dirty. We have rain over the next few days, so that should do it.
Also, I would think the main thing people want to know is can you really clean a car with a chamois and your Magicwash and not scratch it. For years chamois were used to dry cars but they have been abandoned as they contribute to scratching. So, my problem is how can I show that cleaning the car this way did not scratch the paint? Heinrich focused more the ability to clean tar compared to other products. Anyway, if you have any ideas on what I should look at to cover the scratching issue, that would be helpful.
I'm waiting for the car to get dirty. We have rain over the next few days, so that should do it.
Also, I would think the main thing people want to know is can you really clean a car with a chamois and your Magicwash and not scratch it. For years chamois were used to dry cars but they have been abandoned as they contribute to scratching. So, my problem is how can I show that cleaning the car this way did not scratch the paint? Heinrich focused more the ability to clean tar compared to other products. Anyway, if you have any ideas on what I should look at to cover the scratching issue, that would be helpful.
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02-26-2006, 06:22 AM
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Ah Bill
Just throw some mud on it!
Scratching is the biggie tho. It doesn't. Don't know why. Can't explain. But it don't!
Have no idea how to document it.
The main man, Charles, wanted some pics of my car the other day so he made me drive up and down a dirt road after spraying the back with water. I didn't really mind as it gave me a chance to 'hoon' and get sideways! Besides I knew that it would take all of 2 minutes to clean up the dirt after with Magic Wash.
Check the post on: https://rennlist.com/forums/924-931-944-951-968-forum/256068-this-is-amazing.html
water stain removal to see why this guy is a genius!
Hope your car gets dirty real soon Be honest and follow the instructions. A good synthetic chamois is a must.
Cheers
Just throw some mud on it!
Scratching is the biggie tho. It doesn't. Don't know why. Can't explain. But it don't!
Have no idea how to document it.
The main man, Charles, wanted some pics of my car the other day so he made me drive up and down a dirt road after spraying the back with water. I didn't really mind as it gave me a chance to 'hoon' and get sideways!
Besides I knew that it would take all of 2 minutes to clean up the dirt after with Magic Wash.Check the post on: https://rennlist.com/forums/924-931-944-951-968-forum/256068-this-is-amazing.html
water stain removal to see why this guy is a genius!
Hope your car gets dirty real soon
Be honest and follow the instructions. A good synthetic chamois is a must.Cheers
02-26-2006, 10:53 AM
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Bill the tar wasn't my focus at all. I was asking myself the following: Can Magicwash clean my car and how does it stack up against other methods?
Looking at the tar pic, my thought was: does Magicwash dissolve or break up tar? In other pics I asked: does Magicwash remove dirt? and: How does the car look after washing?
The feel of the product on the paint is something I tried to show, and I can best describe it as feeling exactly like water.
Looking at the tar pic, my thought was: does Magicwash dissolve or break up tar? In other pics I asked: does Magicwash remove dirt? and: How does the car look after washing?
The feel of the product on the paint is something I tried to show, and I can best describe it as feeling exactly like water.
02-26-2006, 02:15 PM
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Sorry I misread you write up, H'man. I saw a lot of pics with tar bits. My main conern is what does rubbing this stuff with a chamois on a dirty car do to the paint? Ideally it should be tested versus common car washing with something the paint guys use to assess gloss (reflectometer).
02-26-2006, 03:34 PM
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An easy test would be to use it on 1/2 of a freshly polished and waxed BLACK car a few times and see what the finish looks like compared to the unwashed side.
03-09-2006, 09:53 AM
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To all who asked for samples. Those that I could supply have been sent.
I only ask that you try the product, in accordance with the enclosed directions, and post an honest reply.
So far there have only been two replies across the 'list.
I went to a great deal of trouble, including a BIG suckup to JohnD, to get this stuff to you guys. It is only fair you try it and post your results. Please.
With current water restrictions being enforced around the world {tho maybe not in your area, but other places} this stuff works and has no bad properties.
Testers please post in the next few days, I would appreciate it.
Thanks
I only ask that you try the product, in accordance with the enclosed directions, and post an honest reply.
So far there have only been two replies across the 'list.
I went to a great deal of trouble, including a BIG suckup to JohnD, to get this stuff to you guys. It is only fair you try it and post your results. Please.
With current water restrictions being enforced around the world {tho maybe not in your area, but other places} this stuff works and has no bad properties.
Testers please post in the next few days, I would appreciate it.
Thanks
03-21-2006, 11:43 PM
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A testimonial from the 993 board:
at: https://rennlist.com/forums/993-forum/249836-o-t-amazing-new-car-care-product.html
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Originally Posted by sidned
Sorry it's taken a while, but I've finally managed to try this product and can now post my opinion. First of all, i think the label on the bottle needs to be changed. It says it's for "lazy owners" which I think is negative as I don't consider myself lazy when it comes to cleaning my car. Also, it's not for the lazy. It takes time and effort to clean the car, just without soaking the car first.
Anyway, my car was filthy this weekend due to the crappy British weather, and I recently had a minor dent added to my rear wing which was mentioned in a previous thread. I am getting this wing repaired, so I thought it was worth trying the product on this panel first as it was getting repainted. I started with a clean chamios, a bucket of warm water and the cleaning product in a spray bottle.
I took some photos of the car before the wash so you can see how dirty she was, these are the first two pictures below (I haven't work out how to insert pictures into the thread yet!).
I sprayed the product as instructed and waited a few seconds. I was impressed that the dirt seemed to float on top of the liquid. I screwed up my damp chamios and wiped the area clean. So far so good. I carried on with the rest of this wing and was impressed with the finish. You do need to use quite a bit of the product to wash the whole car, but I didn't have a great deal of time, so I washed the rest of the car quickly with a professional brush attached to my hose (With the weather in the UK I just wanted to get the bloody salt off).
This is where I was really impressed. I have most of the wax left on the car from before winter set in, so water beads fairly well, but what I wasn't prepared for was how much better the water seemed to bead on the wing washed with this product. Unfortunately I didn't take a picture of the beading, but the finished results speak for themselves (bottom two pictures).
I wasn't happy about the state of my chamios after using the product on just one panel (Middle two pictures)!
In summary, I enjoy cleaning the car and I have a routine like most of you that works using water, shampoo etc, and only drying the car off once all the dirt is removed.
However, I was genuinely impressed with this product, although I don't know how much this would retail for so can't say if it offers value for money. I would definitely use it if I was attending a car show or going somewhere where it would be difficult to wash the car in the usual manner, but I doubt if it will replace my lambswool mitt and a bucket of water with shampoo for my regular washes. It does a fabulous job and I would urge you all to give it a go to make your own minds up.
Beeg - Thanks for the opportunity to try this product, and I hope you do well with it, but as I said, change the label on the bottle. No one wants to be labelled as lazy, especially enthusiasts!
Anyway, my car was filthy this weekend due to the crappy British weather, and I recently had a minor dent added to my rear wing which was mentioned in a previous thread. I am getting this wing repaired, so I thought it was worth trying the product on this panel first as it was getting repainted. I started with a clean chamios, a bucket of warm water and the cleaning product in a spray bottle.
I took some photos of the car before the wash so you can see how dirty she was, these are the first two pictures below (I haven't work out how to insert pictures into the thread yet!).
I sprayed the product as instructed and waited a few seconds. I was impressed that the dirt seemed to float on top of the liquid. I screwed up my damp chamios and wiped the area clean. So far so good. I carried on with the rest of this wing and was impressed with the finish. You do need to use quite a bit of the product to wash the whole car, but I didn't have a great deal of time, so I washed the rest of the car quickly with a professional brush attached to my hose (With the weather in the UK I just wanted to get the bloody salt off).
This is where I was really impressed. I have most of the wax left on the car from before winter set in, so water beads fairly well, but what I wasn't prepared for was how much better the water seemed to bead on the wing washed with this product. Unfortunately I didn't take a picture of the beading, but the finished results speak for themselves (bottom two pictures).
I wasn't happy about the state of my chamios after using the product on just one panel (Middle two pictures)!
In summary, I enjoy cleaning the car and I have a routine like most of you that works using water, shampoo etc, and only drying the car off once all the dirt is removed.
However, I was genuinely impressed with this product, although I don't know how much this would retail for so can't say if it offers value for money. I would definitely use it if I was attending a car show or going somewhere where it would be difficult to wash the car in the usual manner, but I doubt if it will replace my lambswool mitt and a bucket of water with shampoo for my regular washes. It does a fabulous job and I would urge you all to give it a go to make your own minds up.
Beeg - Thanks for the opportunity to try this product, and I hope you do well with it, but as I said, change the label on the bottle. No one wants to be labelled as lazy, especially enthusiasts!
with pics