Haha...

Yep..back when I first got the GT....and at one of our local drag strip days, .....up to that point...was running my 87S4 aT with 2.2 gears...almost did the quarter in second...just hit the rev limiter as I cross the line...but..back to the GT..first time up....take off...and bang..hit the rev limiter in 1st..shift to second..and bang..hit the rev limiter in 2nd...so shift..and did the same in 3rd.......I think I even got to 4th before the quarter mile haha.....It took some time to get used to how fast the GT revved...somedays in normal traffic I feel like ive shifted to 4th gear before I get even 100 feet down the road.haha.

I think we should start calling the S4 automatics big and lazy..cause they are so easy to drive on the track....the GT..that's a whole other story

Later,
Tom
89GT

[QUOTE=Jim_H]I think Tom M uses the rev limiter to remind him to shift

 

Exactly. With VERY few exceptions, the primary reason ANY car is 'rare' is that the manufacturer couldn't sell any more of the things then they did. Lots of stuff that was/is really 'great' just never finds the right audience. Or the 'right' audience has different priorities.

There will be 10,000 Bugatti Veryons in the world IF 10,000 people choose to write that check for ~$1.2MM.

To my mind, what's important is that YOU like your car. I would never pay $140K to own a 427 Vette, but hey, if I had it to burn, I'd go $300K for a Muira S. They both are absolutely horrible cars by any modern standards, so what?

As long as the price/value relationship works for you and your scenario, it's a good deal.

Greg

 

Yep ..remember that car now...93 GTS 5-sp ...dark blue metallic with dark blue near all leather interior..incl. dash. Owner got a nice deal on it, but I believe it had major oil consumption issues before he got it. Not sure how it was being driven when it failed but do believe it was due to a cracked or broken oil ring?..perhaps result of detonation (oil induced octane drop???) not sure...but yes...the car is still sitting and it is such a nice car...needs to be re-surrected..

later,
Tom

 

Well put Greg. Now if only the rest of the world would value my rare daily driver. 1995 Range Rover Silver Anniversary Edition. Total mfg'd 250, 225 stateside. Maybe some day it will be worth 5k again.

 

I think the GTS would simply fit me better than an S4 would.

Certainly a clean, well cared for GTS will fit me better than what I would get after putting $20K into my S4.

I would be quite happy with a 14K mile, like new 1989 S4. I'd be happier in a very clean and well kept 40K mile 93 GTS.

I put more emphasis on style, refinement, and smooth, quiet operation than I do on outright performance.

Anyone want to buy my S4?

 

The GTS is a really special combination. I've put over 20K miles on ours.

The more time spent in the car, the harder it is to pry my hands from the wheel! So sweet.

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Yes, but think of some of the exceptions! These cars command a premium in part because the demand exceeded the supply:

Ferrari F40 & F50
BMW M1 & Z8
Audi RS4 & RS6
Porsche 959
Carrera GT - maybe. It sure looks like they stopped production early because the demand seemed to be drying up.
...and the 928 Weissach Edition! Maybe it's stretching the point a little, but a clean Weissach well fetch a premium over other 928s from the same year.

And while the 928GTS may not have sold well as a new car, there are probably more people on this list alone who would like to own a GTS someday than there are cars available.

 

I don't quite understand the fixation on mileage w.r.t to the 928. I wouldn't rule out any GTS based on distance covered. Our GTS has over 100,000 kms, feels and looks like new. 100K is chump change for this car. You have to look at it like an aircraft. Planes have a huge life span, owners don't boohoo about it, just so long maintenance is up to date.

If stored indoors or under cover to protect cosmetics and with fluid changes I figure she is good to 500,000 km's or 5 times the distance of what it has covered to this point, which exceeds my life span at the current rate of usage.

The cost of fuel to run, unsuitability, moving to something else, legislation against daily use or some other factor will terminate it's use for me personally.

 

928s for whatever reason, seem to have had first owners that didn't necessarily lavish the kind of attention on their 928s as some of the cars second or third owners might. I know its not always the case and I have seen a few lower mileage cars but more often higher mileage 928s that just look plain tired. Nobodys fault usually its just time has taken a toll. For example, my blue GTS had 8K miles on it when we bought it 5 years ago and if you were to extrapolate the damage already done to the car another 20k miles, I probably would have passed. There were door dings, scuffs and scrapes, the wheels appeared to be used as curb feelers and it was filthy! Thankfully, all the door dings came out without the need to paint anything, all the scuffs and scrapes polished out and the wheels while scraped up were not totally destroyed and were able to be refinished. Most importantly, it was all there and it cleaned up nicely.

For me, low mileage is important because a low mileage car is usually in better shape cosmetically provided it was maintained and like you say stored properly. My blue GTS had low mileage in its favor so it could be brought back because it was straight and all there. Sometimes the combination of years and miles, no matter how well a car is maintained and cared for will tend to show on the more used example. Fact is when mechanics or PO's take stuff apart to fix it, it doesn't always get put back together the way it came apart.

Personally, I'll take the car that has never had anything disassembled over the more experienced higher mileage car. Also, on the lower mileage car you can be reasonably sure this is how it came from the factory while the higher mileage car you cannot be so sure. I guess I'm saying, I like the originality of the lower mileage cars. Since I was not in a position to buy a new 928 while they were still being built, this is my opportunity to experience a virtually new 928 now. Mechanical stuff can be fixed (usually) but, its costly (not unlike mechanical stuff) and very difficult to make a tired 928 look fresh. I'll take the low mileage example every time. But, that's just my opinion.... I could be wrong.

PS. What does w.r.t mean?

 

WRT is With respect to

 

I don't think it matters why GTSs are rare anymore. I personally have problems owning rare low mileage cars in that I don't like putting miles on them. These will always be the ultimate 928 for some, just as the 89 GT is for others.
After driving later 928s and going back to my US spec 80, I am always amazed at how well it stacks up. Except in the bar, that is. In fact, you see low mileage GTSs for sale on a regular basis. When was the last time you saw a pristine OB offered ? You can't pry them out of the owner's hands.
Even so, when some people get the Porsche bug, they get obsessed with having the '' ultimate '' for whatever reason. And it is hard to knock the performance and handling of the later cars, although we seem to be trying. If I could, I would have one of each. And a 69 911s . And an 89. And and...

 

I know what you are saying, I love my OB too. I think you see fewer low mileage OB's for sale because there are fewer low mileage cars out there.

 

I wouldn't sell my car for less than 50K.
Just today at 0530 I pulled into the cars favorite eatery... MOBIL (which seems to sell the cheapest named brand gas in LA?) and a guy walks up and says i always loved that car. I think I get that reaction every, every time I pull into that station by someone different.

 

Chris it was nice to see your GTS at Sharktoberfest, such a shame you were not able to take it there yourself though. Sweet car!!

 

Chris I get that same response as well.....just before they ask for spare change or offer me some ! You do have great looking car !