Garage 928
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Thanks SeanR for a more detailed explanation. I am also new to 928 forums, and have been watching this thread and your playground closely. Question for elderwood, The printed invoice has more parts/labor than the original handwritten invoice. By about $1800+. When was this work agreed upon? When were you notified that those items needed attention, and did you give consent? I'm sorry that this happened to you, and the horror story that goes with it. I hope you get your car back soon.
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Let me chime in here really quick as someone just pointed out to me that this post is going on here on Rennlist and I am not on Rennlist at all nor do I get notifications. I am the owner of Garage928. As you guys saw the invoice already I am still wondering what this talk is all about.
I send Mr.Woodcox the total invoice with the remaining balance to be paid on June 26.2020 and had a shipper paid to deliver his car to his house with an scheduled pick up at my shop for July 1. After nothing has been paid I called the shipper and canceled the pick up. As of today, July 8.2020 I have not heard back nor was the invoice paid! Additional to the invoice there where so many small things done to his car I did not invoiced for and will stick to my word he has not to pay for it. I have hundreds of pictures and videos on his car from the work executed.
Instead he reported the car falsely as stolen to the Police and to his insurance company! I filed for a mechanics lien after hearing all these stories and the car will remain locked up under a cover in my shop until the remaining balance is paid in full!
Thanks for all you ppl of chiming in and giving your voice over something you have no idea about and badmouthing me!
I am not sure how Mr.Woodcox will explain all this to the Police or his insurance company but spreading lies about me, my shop and slandering my business here and on some FB pages will not do you any good.
As of now I have a lawyer involved and will not say nor provide any more info on here or somewhere else.
Rich
I send Mr.Woodcox the total invoice with the remaining balance to be paid on June 26.2020 and had a shipper paid to deliver his car to his house with an scheduled pick up at my shop for July 1. After nothing has been paid I called the shipper and canceled the pick up. As of today, July 8.2020 I have not heard back nor was the invoice paid! Additional to the invoice there where so many small things done to his car I did not invoiced for and will stick to my word he has not to pay for it. I have hundreds of pictures and videos on his car from the work executed.
Instead he reported the car falsely as stolen to the Police and to his insurance company! I filed for a mechanics lien after hearing all these stories and the car will remain locked up under a cover in my shop until the remaining balance is paid in full!
Thanks for all you ppl of chiming in and giving your voice over something you have no idea about and badmouthing me!
I am not sure how Mr.Woodcox will explain all this to the Police or his insurance company but spreading lies about me, my shop and slandering my business here and on some FB pages will not do you any good.
As of now I have a lawyer involved and will not say nor provide any more info on here or somewhere else.
Rich
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It doesn't matter which lien holder has the title, why even share that? How is it relevant? But if what you are saying about your insurance company reporting your car to the police as stolen is true, you should try to stop that ASAP. The car wasn't stolen; and there could be criminal penalties for filing a false police report or having your insurance company unwittingly do so on your behalf. I don't think you are doing yourself any favors with that stunt, the car is going to find its way back to you after you pay the invoice or you get a Judgement in your favor, but it may have (certainly will have soon) a severely blemished record. Once a car is reported stolen, the insurance company will declare a Total Loss to its VIN, that will show on its CarFax Report, forever. CarFax will not remove the event without an Act of God to force them to do so. It will of course show on any other report as well.
I have to point out that it is fair for a shop to charge a daily storage fee if you fail to collect your car in a timely manner. That's because they need it out of the shop to accommodate other customer vehicles that need to be stored inside overnight. It's really basic.
The above is just some hopefully useful input. There seem to be two very different stories playing out and I'm not taking a side at all, but one does make much more sense than the other.
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Rich, post some of the photos you say you have of the bulk of the work completed - the new shocks, the new radio installed, the new brake rotors and pads installed, the shiny detailed and ceramic coated paint, and a photo of the car in your shop. A few major pictures showing all of that completed and the car still in your shop would certainly add credibility to your position in this matter. Seems simple enough, right? That would be better than making a statement like "As of now I have a lawyer involved and will not say nor provide any more info on here or somewhere else" which doesn't provide any evidence that you've completed what had been promised or that the car is even still in your shop and hasn't been whisked off to the secondary secret storage location - yeah, word gets around.
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tried to upload video from today with a recipe showing todays date. Wont let me. If you will text me I will send you videos to post here for me. 770-309-5203 Rich
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Rich, post some of the photos you say you have of the bulk of the work completed - the new shocks, the new radio installed, the new brake rotors and pads installed, the shiny detailed and ceramic coated paint, and a photo of the car in your shop. A few major pictures showing all of that completed and the car still in your shop would certainly add credibility to your position in this matter. Seems simple enough, right? That would be better than making a statement like "As of now I have a lawyer involved and will not say nor provide any more info on here or somewhere else" which doesn't provide any evidence that you've completed what had been promised or that the car is even still in your shop and hasn't been whisked off to the secondary secret storage location - yeah, word gets around.
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Yea, videos are too large. The best way to do videos on Rennlist is to upload the video to YouTube, then insert the link here. If you want it to only be visible by people who have the link to the video, register it as Unlisted when you upload it instead of Public, then it doesn't show up in general searches and only people with the link can see it. Don't do it as Private as no one will be able to see it.
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Thanks SeanR for a more detailed explanation. I am also new to 928 forums, and have been watching this thread and your playground closely. Question for elderwood, The printed invoice has more parts/labor than the original handwritten invoice. By about $1800+. When was this work agreed upon? When were you notified that those items needed attention, and did you give consent? I'm sorry that this happened to you, and the horror story that goes with it. I hope you get your car back soon.
You are all jackasses jumping in on some maniac posting false statements and lies against me and my shop! He is mentally unstable.That is slandering business and will have consequences!
Horror story?? Just pay your invoice and get your car back!
Last edited by richvm; 07-08-2020 at 04:05 PM.
#39
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Yea, videos are too large. The best way to do videos on Rennlist is to upload the video to YouTube, then insert the link here. If you want it to only be visible by people who have the link to the video, register it as Unlisted when you upload it instead of Public, then it doesn't show up in general searches and only people with the link can see it. Don't do it as Private as no one will be able to see it.
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I was told by the owner of Garage 928 Richard van Meeteren that my s4 was complete and ready to be picked up. And I paid the invoice in full $7,715. That was 150 days ago. No work had been done to my car as confirmed when Two 928 brothers showed up and examined the car for me. Still trying to give him another month and he does not do the work I paid for, but sends me a new invoice for $3,335. My car is in pieces I will be out 5k of that money. I just want my car out of there. He says he is charging me $25 a day storage. Y'all know this fake german, When I looked online and even here I did not see anything about Garage 928 or Richard van Meeteren. Just Scott saying sometime about bumper covers. So far 6 people have come forward with the same story. 1 women bought a s4 from him 3 years ago. Gone. $28,000 gone. Anyone have a story. Officer Paige Kirby case #20-00990 Paige.kirby@mycityofmiltonga.us. Also it is hard to take a bad review off of yelp, put one there. Anyone need proof happy to give it.
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I can certainly keep a car for 150 days (or longer, depending on the job)....but you won't get a bill for work that hasn't been done...and you sure as hell won't have to pay for storage, because I'm not working on your car. That takes some serious *****.
You might want to send down two Russian brothers for an attitude adjustment, instead of two 928 guys.....just a thought.
You might want to send down two Russian brothers for an attitude adjustment, instead of two 928 guys.....just a thought.
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You are a psychopath and lair and that will have consequences! You jackass don't even have manly pants on to call me, receive a call or talk to me in person! Fake German? Come tell me that in my face! Mr.Krajeswy is next in line. As for an Officer Kirby there is no case nor anything on file. Just spoke to the Forsyth Police Department this morning and your insurance company is not happy about your stories.
I do have a little bit of advice to offer....
Rich, if you actually have a legitimate attorney involved in this (not your brother in law or next door neighbor over the fence), you might want to run your "posts" past him, before you push the "send" button......calling someone a psychopath and a liar, online, is not going to remotely help your position, down the road. In reality, this "trumps" anything and everything you have to say about him slandering you. Seriously dude....have a teaspoon of class.
I have no idea of the laws regarding repair work, in whatever state you are in, but in California, a hand scratched "estimate" without the owner's signature giving you permission to do the work is.....less than toilet paper. Additionally, every time you "alter" a signed estimate, you need to record the time, the date, the contact information of the owner, and how much additional cost is going to be involved....and specifically for what. "This 35 year old car was greasy and required additional cleaning" isn't going to cut it....it's assumed, going in, that a 35 year old car is going to be oily, greasy, and dirty.
Rich: Again, if you have a legitimate attorney looking this over, you might want to find out your legal obligations, in your own state, about what is required for a repair shop to do business. You may be "digging yourself" a very big hole, here. Most states have "stepped down hard" on repair shops and have specific obligations for the repair business to follow. This is due to the high amount of fraud that occurs in the automotive repair industry.
For instance, In California, the "Bureau of Automotive Repair" would be at your shop in a New York Minute, to pull your license and shut you down.....with one phone call from the owner of the vehicle. And the owner would owe you......absolutely zero....for all the repairs you performed.....you would have to refund the original deposits, without signatures on the work orders! (When we are done with some 928 jobs, there are sometimes multiple supplements that are sent to the owner, with either his/her signature on each one, or a time and date that the owner approved the additional work.)
Mr. Elderwood:
You are dealing with the incorrect people. The police and your insurance company have nothing to do with this (the police might become involved, depending on the outcome of what you should be doing.)
Immediately call whatever state agency controls automotive repair, in the state your car is located. Tell them the story. Did you ever sign any paperwork? Did you ever get an official estimate (not hand written on toilet paper?) I suspect, from what has been posted by Rich, you have a tremendous amount of "power" in this situation....but you are playing your hand, incorrectly.
#44
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It doesn't matter which lien holder has the title, why even share that? How is it relevant? But if what you are saying about your insurance company reporting your car to the police as stolen is true, you should try to stop that ASAP. The car wasn't stolen; and there could be criminal penalties for filing a false police report or having your insurance company unwittingly do so on your behalf. I don't think you are doing yourself any favors with that stunt, the car is going to find its way back to you after you pay the invoice or you get a Judgement in your favor, but it may have (certainly will have soon) a severely blemished record. Once a car is reported stolen, the insurance company will declare a Total Loss to its VIN, that will show on its CarFax Report, forever. CarFax will not remove the event without an Act of God to force them to do so. It will of course show on any other report as well.
I have to point out that it is fair for a shop to charge a daily storage fee if you fail to collect your car in a timely manner. That's because they need it out of the shop to accommodate other customer vehicles that need to be stored inside overnight. It's really basic.
The above is just some hopefully useful input. There seem to be two very different stories playing out and I'm not taking a side at all, but one does make much more sense than the other.
I have to point out that it is fair for a shop to charge a daily storage fee if you fail to collect your car in a timely manner. That's because they need it out of the shop to accommodate other customer vehicles that need to be stored inside overnight. It's really basic.
The above is just some hopefully useful input. There seem to be two very different stories playing out and I'm not taking a side at all, but one does make much more sense than the other.
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