Garage 928
07-08-2020, 08:04 PM
#61
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I’m confused. I was from your first posting of your thread.
You sent your car eight (8) hours away to have exactly what done to it that couldn’t be done local to you? You paid a $7,700+ invoice, but were later sent a $3,300+ invoice for storage fees, correct? But you say that if you paid both you would be out $5,000. I don’t get the math.
Why would your insurance company get involved, unless you called them? And even then, if you called them to discuss this civil discrepancy why would they get involved? The man didn’t steal your car by what you described, you and your car are involved in a business relationship with the guy. Why would your insurance company report your car as stolen to the police given the real relationship that exists?
If the man moved, that is not a crime. WTF is actually going on?
You sent your car eight (8) hours away to have exactly what done to it that couldn’t be done local to you? You paid a $7,700+ invoice, but were later sent a $3,300+ invoice for storage fees, correct? But you say that if you paid both you would be out $5,000. I don’t get the math.
Why would your insurance company get involved, unless you called them? And even then, if you called them to discuss this civil discrepancy why would they get involved? The man didn’t steal your car by what you described, you and your car are involved in a business relationship with the guy. Why would your insurance company report your car as stolen to the police given the real relationship that exists?
If the man moved, that is not a crime. WTF is actually going on?
07-08-2020, 08:13 PM
#62
I know it’s hard (really ****ing hard) to be the victim of a fictitious internet crusade against you by some *******, but you have given more than enough information in response. Go relax and let this charade die out, as it should.
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07-08-2020, 08:21 PM
#63
Instructor
I don't know anything about this story or anything first hand about Garage 928.....just what I am reading, here.
I do have a little bit of advice to offer....
Rich, if you actually have a legitimate attorney involved in this (not your brother in law or next door neighbor over the fence), you might want to run your "posts" past him, before you push the "send" button......calling someone a psychopath and a liar, online, is not going to remotely help your position, down the road. In reality, this "trumps" anything and everything you have to say about him slandering you. Seriously dude....have a teaspoon of class.
Gregg, appreciate you're trying to give any advice but he has gone to far. You don't know the full story and nobody else here does but chiming in and jumping on me right away is easy to do as a lot ppl did and still doing. Some do it just because they most have a miserable life at home.
No, these are REAL lawyers and not some bs neighbors or friends.
If you look through the invoice I send, which you find here as well, how much would that be in CA Dollars? 18/20/22K?
I have no idea of the laws regarding repair work, in whatever state you are in, but in California, a hand scratched "estimate" without the owner's signature giving you permission to do the work is.....less than toilet paper. Additionally, every time you "alter" a signed estimate, you need to record the time, the date, the contact information of the owner, and how much additional cost is going to be involved....and specifically for what. "This 35 year old car was greasy and required additional cleaning" isn't going to cut it....it's assumed, going in, that a 35 year old car is going to be oily, greasy, and dirty.
Rich: Again, if you have a legitimate attorney looking this over, you might want to find out your legal obligations, in your own state, about what is required for a repair shop to do business. You may be "digging yourself" a very big hole, here. Most states have "stepped down hard" on repair shops and have specific obligations for the repair business to follow. This is due to the high amount of fraud that occurs in the automotive repair industry.
For instance, In California, the "Bureau of Automotive Repair" would be at your shop in a New York Minute, to pull your license and shut you down.....with one phone call from the owner of the vehicle. And the owner would owe you......absolutely zero....for all the repairs you performed.....you would have to refund the original deposits, without signatures on the work orders! (When we are done with some 928 jobs, there are sometimes multiple supplements that are sent to the owner, with either his/her signature on each one, or a time and date that the owner approved the additional work.)
I do have a little bit of advice to offer....
Rich, if you actually have a legitimate attorney involved in this (not your brother in law or next door neighbor over the fence), you might want to run your "posts" past him, before you push the "send" button......calling someone a psychopath and a liar, online, is not going to remotely help your position, down the road. In reality, this "trumps" anything and everything you have to say about him slandering you. Seriously dude....have a teaspoon of class.
Gregg, appreciate you're trying to give any advice but he has gone to far. You don't know the full story and nobody else here does but chiming in and jumping on me right away is easy to do as a lot ppl did and still doing. Some do it just because they most have a miserable life at home.
No, these are REAL lawyers and not some bs neighbors or friends.
If you look through the invoice I send, which you find here as well, how much would that be in CA Dollars? 18/20/22K?
I have no idea of the laws regarding repair work, in whatever state you are in, but in California, a hand scratched "estimate" without the owner's signature giving you permission to do the work is.....less than toilet paper. Additionally, every time you "alter" a signed estimate, you need to record the time, the date, the contact information of the owner, and how much additional cost is going to be involved....and specifically for what. "This 35 year old car was greasy and required additional cleaning" isn't going to cut it....it's assumed, going in, that a 35 year old car is going to be oily, greasy, and dirty.
Rich: Again, if you have a legitimate attorney looking this over, you might want to find out your legal obligations, in your own state, about what is required for a repair shop to do business. You may be "digging yourself" a very big hole, here. Most states have "stepped down hard" on repair shops and have specific obligations for the repair business to follow. This is due to the high amount of fraud that occurs in the automotive repair industry.
For instance, In California, the "Bureau of Automotive Repair" would be at your shop in a New York Minute, to pull your license and shut you down.....with one phone call from the owner of the vehicle. And the owner would owe you......absolutely zero....for all the repairs you performed.....you would have to refund the original deposits, without signatures on the work orders! (When we are done with some 928 jobs, there are sometimes multiple supplements that are sent to the owner, with either his/her signature on each one, or a time and date that the owner approved the additional work.)
07-09-2020, 02:22 PM
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Rich --
My experience is limited to the Great and Socialist Republik of California, where anybody who does any automotive-related work is registered/licensed with the state, and subject to specific rules that govern the way business is done. There are no exceptions for "specialty shop"; if you work on cars or even pieces of cars at a retail level, you get to play by specific rules. Lots of states model their consumer protection programs on what larger states do, so there's generally some consistency in laws among even the smaller states. In Cali, if a vendor/shop decides on its own that it isn't subject to the rules, a complaint to the state will ALWAYS result in a ruling for the consumer. Check your state's rules very carefully. Even if you feel you aren't subject to the licensing rules, at least follow the rest of the rules to the letter. If nothing else it keeps customers informed and generally happy. Knowing what I know from Cali, I'd err in the safe side rather than try and rationalize an exception.
My experience is limited to the Great and Socialist Republik of California, where anybody who does any automotive-related work is registered/licensed with the state, and subject to specific rules that govern the way business is done. There are no exceptions for "specialty shop"; if you work on cars or even pieces of cars at a retail level, you get to play by specific rules. Lots of states model their consumer protection programs on what larger states do, so there's generally some consistency in laws among even the smaller states. In Cali, if a vendor/shop decides on its own that it isn't subject to the rules, a complaint to the state will ALWAYS result in a ruling for the consumer. Check your state's rules very carefully. Even if you feel you aren't subject to the licensing rules, at least follow the rest of the rules to the letter. If nothing else it keeps customers informed and generally happy. Knowing what I know from Cali, I'd err in the safe side rather than try and rationalize an exception.
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