Fixed Headlights Installed
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Out wit' the old - in wit' the new...
Hella 90MM projector low beam/free form high beam on prototype bracket:
![](https://members.rennlist.com/porken/FixedHeadlightBeta.jpg)
No, it ain't photoshopped!
I might move the lights back and up a bit. The cover will be a 9" flat acrylic disk.
Hopefully I'll have the lights back on in a few days!
*Concept Thread*
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Hella 90MM projector low beam/free form high beam on prototype bracket:
![](https://members.rennlist.com/porken/FixedHeadlightBeta.jpg)
No, it ain't photoshopped!
I might move the lights back and up a bit. The cover will be a 9" flat acrylic disk.
Hopefully I'll have the lights back on in a few days!
*Concept Thread*
~thread~start~
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It would be nice if the lights were encased in a plastic or fiberglass mount, so that they would be recessed in two holes, with no empty space around them. THEN put the clear plastic cover over it...
Making it look more like the newer PES headlights.
Example:
But nothing but big cheers for your efforts to make things, and actually experiment!
Making it look more like the newer PES headlights.
Example:
![](http://www.msionline.co.uk/images/gen%202.jpg)
But nothing but big cheers for your efforts to make things, and actually experiment!
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Oh yeah,
According to the bathroom scale, >20 lbs net weight removed off the nose!![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
(Complete popup system with Bosch 8" H4s, both sides, >26 lbs.)
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bcdavis,
If I was a fiberglass guy, I would probably make a bucket like you describe, but without a cover. (The lenses are tempered glass.)
According to the bathroom scale, >20 lbs net weight removed off the nose!
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(Complete popup system with Bosch 8" H4s, both sides, >26 lbs.)
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bcdavis,
If I was a fiberglass guy, I would probably make a bucket like you describe, but without a cover. (The lenses are tempered glass.)
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Brackets are done!
They're rock solid, fully triangulated, mount to factory holes, and position the lights just perfectly with no apparent beam cutoff. (Hard to tell if things are going to be level when you're tack-welding the bits together for the first time!)
![](https://members.rennlist.com/porken/FixedHeadlight.jpg)
![](https://members.rennlist.com/porken/FixedHeadlightSide.jpg)
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I've figured out the wiring. It turn out to be (unexpectedly) simple, I just need to buy a couple of relays and fuse holders. I am going to wire directly to the 'jump-start bolt', for clean power to the 65W H9 bulbs and I've decided to keep the low beam on when the high beams are switched on, for more light output.
I still have to make the cover. It looks like I can use just a simple flat sheet underneath to hide the inside of the fender.
They're rock solid, fully triangulated, mount to factory holes, and position the lights just perfectly with no apparent beam cutoff. (Hard to tell if things are going to be level when you're tack-welding the bits together for the first time!)
![](https://members.rennlist.com/porken/FixedHeadlight.jpg)
![](https://members.rennlist.com/porken/FixedHeadlightSide.jpg)
![](https://members.rennlist.com/porken/FixedHeadlightCloseup.jpg)
I've figured out the wiring. It turn out to be (unexpectedly) simple, I just need to buy a couple of relays and fuse holders. I am going to wire directly to the 'jump-start bolt', for clean power to the 65W H9 bulbs and I've decided to keep the low beam on when the high beams are switched on, for more light output.
I still have to make the cover. It looks like I can use just a simple flat sheet underneath to hide the inside of the fender.
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Last edited by PorKen; 02-23-2004 at 01:50 AM.
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I like that look it gives a 20yearold car a face lift. What happen to guy with clear turn signals?
bcdavis,
Is right it should be enclosed to give it that clean, right, look. Great job
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Very, very cool. If you built a fiberglass housing you might be able to move the lights out a bit. Then the acrylic cover could still sit flush on the fender lines and the housing could sit in the lip of the fender where the lights currently sit. I have been dreaming about this happening for years without having to modify the fenders ala Jaquamond or Strosek
Keep it up, I for one and very excited about your progress.
Stephen
Keep it up, I for one and very excited about your progress.
Stephen
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Steve Cattaneo - thanks!
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Shmurzik, ruf965,
I positioned the lights so that both the low and high beam would clear the opening, and be as high as possible. I also wanted to keep the cover simple (so I could make it) so having the lights recessed helped here too.
The light centerlines are ~25" above the ground (DOT legal is 22"-54"). The lenses are 2-3mm inset from the fender opening. The low beam appears to be cut off, but the active part is the fresnel lens in the center which is completely exposed.
![](https://members.rennlist.com/porken/FixedHeadlightHole.jpg)
![](https://members.rennlist.com/porken/FixedHeadlightRear.jpg)
If you look in the first pic of this thread, the lights are lower and extend ~15mm into the fender hole.
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Jim_H - I'm quite proud of the brackets:
![](https://members.rennlist.com/porken/FixedHeadlightFrame.jpg)
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The girlfriend (normally unmoved by anything I do with my car) said: "Your car looks mean... it looks like a boy now - it looked like a girl before".
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Shmurzik, ruf965,
I positioned the lights so that both the low and high beam would clear the opening, and be as high as possible. I also wanted to keep the cover simple (so I could make it) so having the lights recessed helped here too.
The light centerlines are ~25" above the ground (DOT legal is 22"-54"). The lenses are 2-3mm inset from the fender opening. The low beam appears to be cut off, but the active part is the fresnel lens in the center which is completely exposed.
![](https://members.rennlist.com/porken/FixedHeadlightHole.jpg)
![](https://members.rennlist.com/porken/FixedHeadlightRear.jpg)
If you look in the first pic of this thread, the lights are lower and extend ~15mm into the fender hole.
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Jim_H - I'm quite proud of the brackets:
![](https://members.rennlist.com/porken/FixedHeadlightFrame.jpg)
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The girlfriend (normally unmoved by anything I do with my car) said: "Your car looks mean... it looks like a boy now - it looked like a girl before".
Last edited by PorKen; 05-31-2004 at 10:01 PM.
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PorKen,
Very, very nice job. They'll look like they were put there by the factory with some sort of backround fill and covers as has been suggested.
Especially smart that you used the stock mounting points.
Yup, all that headlight stuff is quite heavy isn't it? Especially that cross-bar. You'd think they would've spent a few $ and made it lighter than that.
Greg
Very, very nice job. They'll look like they were put there by the factory with some sort of backround fill and covers as has been suggested.
Especially smart that you used the stock mounting points.
Yup, all that headlight stuff is quite heavy isn't it? Especially that cross-bar. You'd think they would've spent a few $ and made it lighter than that.
Greg
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Other than the weighte saveings, why would you want to do that?
The 928's lights are unique, and really cool looking in my opinion. Not to mention, the 8" reflector, plus a modern bulb really throw some light out.
Now if you had a plan to replaceing the driveing lights/fod lights with a set of retangular headlights, I'm game! Maybe grafted from a GM Van...
The 928's lights are unique, and really cool looking in my opinion. Not to mention, the 8" reflector, plus a modern bulb really throw some light out.
Now if you had a plan to replaceing the driveing lights/fod lights with a set of retangular headlights, I'm game! Maybe grafted from a GM Van...
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Well, sure... reflector size can be more important than wattage.... and I like the 8" setup, 20 lbs extra weight and all. I just love this kind of stuff, experimenting around, checking out the results.... Go PorKen! I may not be interested in implementing all of your ideas but bravo for sharing! Great stuff! ![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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