Notices
928 Forum 1978-1995
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: 928 Specialists

Fixed Headlights Installed

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 20, 2004 | 10:21 PM
  #1  
PorKen's Avatar
PorKen
Thread Starter
Inventor
Rennlist Member

20 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 10,218
Likes: 468
Default Fixed Headlights Installed

Out wit' the old - in wit' the new...

Hella 90MM projector low beam/free form high beam on prototype bracket:


No, it ain't photoshopped!

I might move the lights back and up a bit. The cover will be a 9" flat acrylic disk.

Hopefully I'll have the lights back on in a few days!

*Concept Thread*
~thread~start~
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2004 | 10:39 PM
  #2  
bcdavis's Avatar
bcdavis
Drifting
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 3,348
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles, CA
Default

It would be nice if the lights were encased in a plastic or fiberglass mount, so that they would be recessed in two holes, with no empty space around them. THEN put the clear plastic cover over it...
Making it look more like the newer PES headlights.

Example:





But nothing but big cheers for your efforts to make things, and actually experiment!



Reply
Old Feb 20, 2004 | 10:41 PM
  #3  
PorKen's Avatar
PorKen
Thread Starter
Inventor
Rennlist Member

20 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 10,218
Likes: 468
Default

Oh yeah,

According to the bathroom scale, >20 lbs net weight removed off the nose!

(Complete popup system with Bosch 8" H4s, both sides, >26 lbs.)

...

bcdavis,

If I was a fiberglass guy, I would probably make a bucket like you describe, but without a cover. (The lenses are tempered glass.)
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2004 | 10:44 PM
  #4  
bcdavis's Avatar
bcdavis
Drifting
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 3,348
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles, CA
Default

I knew all that stuff had to weigh a lot!
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2004 | 02:00 AM
  #5  
jserio's Avatar
jserio
Three Wheelin'
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,545
Likes: 1
From: O.C. California
Default

Porken, Get a bright shot with whole nose in it.
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 09:35 PM
  #6  
PorKen's Avatar
PorKen
Thread Starter
Inventor
Rennlist Member

20 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 10,218
Likes: 468
Default Phew!

Brackets are done!

They're rock solid, fully triangulated, mount to factory holes, and position the lights just perfectly with no apparent beam cutoff. (Hard to tell if things are going to be level when you're tack-welding the bits together for the first time!)







I've figured out the wiring. It turn out to be (unexpectedly) simple, I just need to buy a couple of relays and fuse holders. I am going to wire directly to the 'jump-start bolt', for clean power to the 65W H9 bulbs and I've decided to keep the low beam on when the high beams are switched on, for more light output.

I still have to make the cover. It looks like I can use just a simple flat sheet underneath to hide the inside of the fender.

Last edited by PorKen; Feb 23, 2004 at 01:50 AM.
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 10:05 PM
  #7  
Steve Cattaneo's Avatar
Steve Cattaneo
Three Wheelin'
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 1,641
Likes: 0
From: Hudson Valley NY
Default




I like that look it gives a 20yearold car a face lift. What happen to guy with clear turn signals?

bcdavis,

Is right it should be enclosed to give it that clean, right, look. Great job




.
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 10:46 PM
  #8  
Shmurzik's Avatar
Shmurzik
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 442
Likes: 0
From: New York City
Default

Aren't they too far in?
Reply
Rennlist Stories

The Best Porsche Posts for Porsche Enthusiasts

story-0

6 Convertible Top MYTHS Most People Don't Understand!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

2026 Porsche 911 Club Coupe is Spectacular, And Everything Wrong with the Porsche Market

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

Talos Takes Your 991 Porsche 911 GT3 to the Next Level for a Cool $1.13 Million

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

9 Vehicles Porsche Helped Engineer that Aren't Porsches

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

9 Features and Characteristics That Only Porsche People Understand

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

I've Written 500 Rennlist Articles: Here's How Porsche Has Changed Along the Way

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

10 Most Unnecessary Porsches Ever Built (And Why We Love Them)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Porsche 911 GT3 S/C vs 718 Spyder RS: 10 Categories, One Winner

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

This Builder Is Turning Heads With Its Slantnose 911 Creation

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Porsche 911 GT3 Artisan Edition Pays Homage to Japanese Culture

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 12:10 AM
  #9  
ruf965's Avatar
ruf965
Instructor
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 127
Likes: 0
Default

Very, very cool. If you built a fiberglass housing you might be able to move the lights out a bit. Then the acrylic cover could still sit flush on the fender lines and the housing could sit in the lip of the fender where the lights currently sit. I have been dreaming about this happening for years without having to modify the fenders ala Jaquamond or Strosek

Keep it up, I for one and very excited about your progress.

Stephen
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 12:16 AM
  #10  
Jim_H's Avatar
Jim_H
Banned
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 12,264
Likes: 3
From: The Great Northwest
Default

PorKen,

You have a gift, you must use it.
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 01:10 AM
  #11  
PorKen's Avatar
PorKen
Thread Starter
Inventor
Rennlist Member

20 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 10,218
Likes: 468
Default

Steve Cattaneo - thanks!

...

Shmurzik, ruf965,

I positioned the lights so that both the low and high beam would clear the opening, and be as high as possible. I also wanted to keep the cover simple (so I could make it) so having the lights recessed helped here too.

The light centerlines are ~25" above the ground (DOT legal is 22"-54"). The lenses are 2-3mm inset from the fender opening. The low beam appears to be cut off, but the active part is the fresnel lens in the center which is completely exposed.





If you look in the first pic of this thread, the lights are lower and extend ~15mm into the fender hole.

...

Jim_H - I'm quite proud of the brackets:



...

The girlfriend (normally unmoved by anything I do with my car) said: "Your car looks mean... it looks like a boy now - it looked like a girl before".

Last edited by PorKen; May 31, 2004 at 10:01 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 02:09 AM
  #12  
2V4V's Avatar
2V4V
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 1,117
Likes: 0
Default

PorKen,

Very, very nice job. They'll look like they were put there by the factory with some sort of backround fill and covers as has been suggested.

Especially smart that you used the stock mounting points.

Yup, all that headlight stuff is quite heavy isn't it? Especially that cross-bar. You'd think they would've spent a few $ and made it lighter than that.

Greg
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 02:48 AM
  #13  
SharkSkin's Avatar
SharkSkin
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 12,620
Likes: 8
From: Boulder Creek, CA
Default

Nice workmanship... Can you post pics of the beam patterns on a dark road? I guess it's a bit late for a "before pic of that...

D
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 03:13 AM
  #14  
ViribusUnits's Avatar
ViribusUnits
Nordschleife Master
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 9,010
Likes: 2
From: South Texas
Default

Other than the weighte saveings, why would you want to do that?

The 928's lights are unique, and really cool looking in my opinion. Not to mention, the 8" reflector, plus a modern bulb really throw some light out.

Now if you had a plan to replaceing the driveing lights/fod lights with a set of retangular headlights, I'm game! Maybe grafted from a GM Van...
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 03:19 AM
  #15  
SharkSkin's Avatar
SharkSkin
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 12,620
Likes: 8
From: Boulder Creek, CA
Default

Well, sure... reflector size can be more important than wattage.... and I like the 8" setup, 20 lbs extra weight and all. I just love this kind of stuff, experimenting around, checking out the results.... Go PorKen! I may not be interested in implementing all of your ideas but bravo for sharing! Great stuff!

D
Reply



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 06:29 PM.

story-0
6 Convertible Top MYTHS Most People Don't Understand!

Slideshow: dispelling common convertible top myths

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-1
2026 Porsche 911 Club Coupe is Spectacular, And Everything Wrong with the Porsche Market

Slideshow: The 2026 Porsche 911 Club Coupe is being resold $150K above sticker and that is a real problem.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-21 11:52:54


VIEW MORE
story-2
Talos Takes Your 991 Porsche 911 GT3 to the Next Level for a Cool $1.13 Million

Slideshow: Talos Vehicles has transformed the Porsche 911 GT3 RS into a carbon-bodied, race-inspired machine that costs well over $1 million before the donor car is even included.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-19 13:39:04


VIEW MORE
story-3
9 Vehicles Porsche Helped Engineer that Aren't Porsches

Slideshow: Long before engineering consulting became trendy, Porsche was quietly helping other automakers build everything from supercars to economy hatchbacks.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-15 12:44:44


VIEW MORE
story-4
9 Features and Characteristics That Only Porsche People Understand

Slideshow: Some brands build cars. Porsche builds traditions, obsessions, and a few habits that stopped making sense decades ago but somehow became part of the charm.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-13 18:46:13


VIEW MORE
story-5
I've Written 500 Rennlist Articles: Here's How Porsche Has Changed Along the Way

Slideshow: Six years and 500 Rennlist articles later, these are the biggest changes at Porsche.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-11 09:52:55


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Most Unnecessary Porsches Ever Built (And Why We Love Them)

Slideshow: Some Porsches exist for very specific reasons-others feel like they were built just to see if anyone would notice.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-06 18:00:32


VIEW MORE
story-7
Porsche 911 GT3 S/C vs 718 Spyder RS: 10 Categories, One Winner

Slideshow: Choosing between the 911 GT3 S/C and 718 Spyder RS in 10 key categories to determine one surprising winner.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 12:51:46


VIEW MORE
story-8
This Builder Is Turning Heads With Its Slantnose 911 Creation

Slideshow: A small Polish tuner has reimagined the Porsche 911 Slantnose for the modern era, blending 1980s nostalgia with widebody tuning culture and serious performance upgrades.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-01 10:49:43


VIEW MORE
story-9
Porsche 911 GT3 Artisan Edition Pays Homage to Japanese Culture

Slideshow: Porsche has created a Japan-only 911 GT3 Artisan Edition that blends track-ready hardware with design cues inspired by traditional Japanese craftsmanship.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-28 19:37:40


VIEW MORE