Fixed Headlights Installed
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Harness done.
Of course it had to be raining cats and dogs... No beam shots yet.
The low beams have a reddish hue at the cutoff line. (HID's often have blue to purple.)
New side look:
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Beth - I like the froggy look too.
I just can't look past the benefits this setup gives me versus the quaintness of the pop-ups. And it does look cool, the pictures don't do it justice.
Being able to flash the (super bright) high beams, even when all the lights are off, is one nice feature!
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Of course it had to be raining cats and dogs... No beam shots yet.
The low beams have a reddish hue at the cutoff line. (HID's often have blue to purple.)
New side look:
...
Beth - I like the froggy look too.
I just can't look past the benefits this setup gives me versus the quaintness of the pop-ups. And it does look cool, the pictures don't do it justice.
Being able to flash the (super bright) high beams, even when all the lights are off, is one nice feature!
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Porken, IMHO, you can't beat bigger reflectors. But thats cool.
Now, what I'm trying to figure out how to do, but can't because I can't do fiberglass work, is how to replace the "driveing lights" with retangular head lights. Maybe the lights off a GM product.
This would be great IMHO. Be just like havieng non retactable head lights, BUT still have the retractable head lights.
Anyways.
Now, what I'm trying to figure out how to do, but can't because I can't do fiberglass work, is how to replace the "driveing lights" with retangular head lights. Maybe the lights off a GM product.
This would be great IMHO. Be just like havieng non retactable head lights, BUT still have the retractable head lights.
Anyways.
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VU,
I was thinking the same thing. The lights off of previous model suburban (up to 1999) are about the right size and shape. too bad I know nothing of the movement of electrons and how to wire them. Maybe someone will do a kit.
Porken,
I like the look.
Cheers
JF
I was thinking the same thing. The lights off of previous model suburban (up to 1999) are about the right size and shape. too bad I know nothing of the movement of electrons and how to wire them. Maybe someone will do a kit.
Porken,
I like the look.
Cheers
JF
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Originally posted by ErnestSw
The recessed cowl effect in the bottom picture of Hacker Pschorr's post would look nice.
The recessed cowl effect in the bottom picture of Hacker Pschorr's post would look nice.
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There is a picture of a driving light conversion on the SoCal928 website, under "Devek Days".
Page 7 of photo albums, page 2 of the album.
I'll post the pic myself later tonight.
If someone is a member, they can look at this link directly:
Driving Light Conversion
Page 7 of photo albums, page 2 of the album.
I'll post the pic myself later tonight.
If someone is a member, they can look at this link directly:
Driving Light Conversion
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Adjusted the lights.
I changed the wiring so that the low beams to come on whenever the car is running, for daytime running lights.
Lights on/DRL:
Low beam/Low + High:
I'm having some 9" Lexan light smoke disks cut. Then I have to figure how to mount them!
I'm getting a lot of looks; I think people saying "What kinda car is that, ma?".
I changed the wiring so that the low beams to come on whenever the car is running, for daytime running lights.
Lights on/DRL:
Low beam/Low + High:
I'm having some 9" Lexan light smoke disks cut. Then I have to figure how to mount them!
I'm getting a lot of looks; I think people saying "What kinda car is that, ma?".
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Have you seen the perforated vinyl headlight and window coverings?
They are adhesive vinyl, with a bunch of holes.
But optically, the color over-rides the holes, and to the naked eye, it looks like a solid color...
Considering that your car is white, using a white cover over your plexiglass might look cool, as if you had no lights at all...
They are adhesive vinyl, with a bunch of holes.
But optically, the color over-rides the holes, and to the naked eye, it looks like a solid color...
Considering that your car is white, using a white cover over your plexiglass might look cool, as if you had no lights at all...
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The company that does the motorcycle lights can cut you a sheet to your specifications.
Prettty inexpensive.
It can be used for tail-light covers as well, in black...
http://www.sportbikedecals.safeshopper.com/
Prettty inexpensive.
It can be used for tail-light covers as well, in black...
http://www.sportbikedecals.safeshopper.com/
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I guess I'm just weird. The projector lights just don't excite me. Don't get me wrong... I love reading about this whole exercise, I've always felt that a car should not have a different drag coefficient just because the headlights are on... but I like the look of the popup 8" units, and the huge reflectors SHOULD get more light out there. A 90mm projector has, optimistically, 10 square inches of area. OTOH, if you pessimistically estimate the reflector diameter of the 8" H4's at 7" they have nearly 4 times the surface area of the projector. Actually, being a paraboloid, I'm sure the difference is much greater though I'm too lazy to bother with that math.
What I'd REALLY like to do some time is look at both types at the same wattage on a dark road side by side, one at a time, to see what the real world difference is. Paper and pencil only get you so far. I'll probably stick to the 8" out of stubbornness and aesthetic reasons of my own even if they prove somewhat inferior.
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What I'd REALLY like to do some time is look at both types at the same wattage on a dark road side by side, one at a time, to see what the real world difference is. Paper and pencil only get you so far. I'll probably stick to the 8" out of stubbornness and aesthetic reasons of my own even if they prove somewhat inferior.
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Dave,
If all things were equal, then the larger reflector surface, (generally) would have an advantage.
However, our headlight reflectors were designed a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, that did not have nearly the technology that the here-and-now posesses.
I have driven side-by-side with H4 (euro) and H5 (sae) lights in my 928 against a wide variety of high-line imports in the dark. If you ignore the whiter light provided by their HIDs, and just focus on pattern and reach, you'll find the relatively tiny (but very high-tech) projector beam to be at least as good, and generally a fair amount better than our 8" rounds.
For their time, our 8" lights were the shiznit (or whatever those wacky kids say these days), and they are still better than a most of the crappy lights on US cars which are a styling exercise first and foremost. However, against comparable high-line Euro cars though, we are definately no longer advantaged. Not miles behind, but not leading - even against some really puny looking projectors.
That having been said, I do still love the Muira-esque way our lights pop-up, I just wish they worked as well as projectors, esp projector HIDs.
Now, if somebody wants to come up with some 8" projector HIDs, then we got us a real weapon in the fight against left-lane-bandits (also useful for browning microwaved food in a pinch).
Greg
If all things were equal, then the larger reflector surface, (generally) would have an advantage.
However, our headlight reflectors were designed a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, that did not have nearly the technology that the here-and-now posesses.
I have driven side-by-side with H4 (euro) and H5 (sae) lights in my 928 against a wide variety of high-line imports in the dark. If you ignore the whiter light provided by their HIDs, and just focus on pattern and reach, you'll find the relatively tiny (but very high-tech) projector beam to be at least as good, and generally a fair amount better than our 8" rounds.
For their time, our 8" lights were the shiznit (or whatever those wacky kids say these days), and they are still better than a most of the crappy lights on US cars which are a styling exercise first and foremost. However, against comparable high-line Euro cars though, we are definately no longer advantaged. Not miles behind, but not leading - even against some really puny looking projectors.
That having been said, I do still love the Muira-esque way our lights pop-up, I just wish they worked as well as projectors, esp projector HIDs.
Now, if somebody wants to come up with some 8" projector HIDs, then we got us a real weapon in the fight against left-lane-bandits (also useful for browning microwaved food in a pinch).
Greg