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Old 04-12-2019, 03:31 PM
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Couple things -

I think I have plastic covers somewhere. If you want them, and then if I can find them, they are yours for shipping.

The cam towers always leak. There is oil on them on this engine, however, because they were covered when I turned the engine over after I put oil in the spark plug holes. Mistake.
So they were dry before that. That said, its good insurance.

Plus, as I mentioned, I think you should use your 78/79 cams.
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If you do pull the cam towers Mr Brown makes improved cam tower gaskets. They would be worth it if they were expensive but they are stupid cheap.
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Originally Posted by BC
Couple things -

I think I have plastic covers somewhere. If you want them, and then if I can find them, they are yours for shipping.

The cam towers always leak. There is oil on them on this engine, however, because they were covered when I turned the engine over after I put oil in the spark plug holes. Mistake.
So they were dry before that. That said, its good insurance.

Plus, as I mentioned, I think you should use your 78/79 cams.
Brendan,

Yes, if you have unbroken plastic cam timing covers, I'll take them. The only good one I have is outer top left. I need and all the other ones, including inner left and right. Can you email me pictures of the ones you have?

Why do you say to reuse my cams? My plan was to pull the cam towers but not to remove the heads. Do you think there's an issue with the cams?
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Originally Posted by karl ruiter
If you do pull the cam towers Mr Brown makes improved cam tower gaskets. They would be worth it if they were expensive but they are stupid cheap.
Bought a pair from Roger and am assuming that's what he sent since I'm also doing all GB's fuel and clutch line.

Are these the good ones?
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Originally Posted by Petza914
Brendan,

Yes, if you have unbroken plastic cam timing covers, I'll take them. The only good one I have is outer top left. I need and all the other ones, including inner left and right. Can you email me pictures of the ones you have?

Why do you say to reuse my cams? My plan was to pull the cam towers but not to remove the heads. Do you think there's an issue with the cams?
You don't remove the heads. You don't have to change anything except if you wanted to the cams have higher lift or more duration on the 78/79 cams. And they just are in the cam boxes.
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Originally Posted by BC
You don't remove the heads. You don't have to change anything except if you wanted to the cams have higher lift or more duration on the 78/79 cams. And they just are in the cam boxes.
Interesting. I didn't know the regular 78/79 cams had higher lift and duration. I knew the Euros were different, but not the ROW versions. If that's the case, that might be worth doing now that you mention it. Do you happen to know the specs for the cams on both versions?
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Pulled the Clutch Pack today and washed more parts. Once I get the car back together and drive it with the OEM friction discs, I'll probably put this pair of SPEC friction discs up for sale so someone who needs more aggressive clutch grip can get a deal on them.










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Originally Posted by BC
You don't remove the heads. You don't have to change anything except if you wanted to the cams have higher lift or more duration on the 78/79 cams. And they just are in the cam boxes.
Found this very interesting thread on that exact subject, with all the cam specifications, so that's a great tip and what I'll plan to do.

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...cam-specs.html

I'm guessing this setup is going to make a significant difference. I'll be moving the compression ratio from 8.5:1 to 9.3:1, increasing the displacement slightly from 4.5L to 4.7L and then if I use my '79 cams, combining those changes with increased lift and duration, this might turn out to be a decent HP & torque bump, especially with the supercharger, which I also recently upgraded. I'm getting kind of excited about this whole thing now, though I'm most excited about not having oil and power steering fluid all over my motor and the garage floor.
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Originally Posted by Petza914
Bought a pair from Roger and am assuming that's what he sent since I'm also doing all GB's fuel and clutch line.

Are these the good ones?
Yes.

Those will never leak, if you read and follow the instructions provided with them.
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Originally Posted by GregBBRD
Yes.

Those will never leak, if you read and follow the instructions provided with them.
Looking forward to that.

No instructions included.

You have a PDF you can attach here or email to me at petza914@gmail.com.

Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Petza914
Looking forward to that.

No instructions included.

You have a PDF you can attach here or email to me at petza914@gmail.com.

Thanks.
Common issue.

I have instructions for every single thing I sell.
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I have instructions that have me dropping the steering rack to access the motor mount bolts, but those bolts look like they're just securing this bracket that is then secured to the motor by 4 bolts - 2 on each side.

Can I just undo these 4 bolts to free the motor and not mess with the sway bar or steering rack?



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To pull the engine, yes. That's how I removed and installed my S4 engine. Not sure on the 16 valve engines, but on the 32 valve after you remove the bell housing to engine bolts, you loosen the 2 transaxle mount bolts and slide it back about 1/2" or so and it gives you more room to get the engine loose from the bell housing and remove the engine.
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I don't recall exactly, but I think it may be difficult the get the engine high enough to clear the mounts if you leave them on the cross brace.
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Originally Posted by Petza914
I have instructions that have me dropping the steering rack to access the motor mount bolts, but those bolts look like they're just securing this bracket that is then secured to the motor by 4 bolts - 2 on each side.

Can I just undo these 4 bolts to free the motor and not mess with the sway bar or steering rack?
Aren't there 4 bolts(2 long and 2 short)for each motor mount on each side? 8 total bolts. Or is that later model motors mounts only?

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