odurandina

here's what I been talking about...

968 hard top at the right price....

https://rennlist.com/forums/968-foru...e-on-ebay.html


Slate Grey ready for a respray, and new seat covers,

has a 6 speed....

comes with 968 mirrors and 968 rear wing already on it....

ready for those 964/993 style Speedlines.... new rubber

and big brakes !!

rear glass ready for tint job....

begging for updated sound......

swap out the horrid oem wheel for a CS or 996...

motor good for general enjoyment... no endless 944 electrical gremlins/horrors,

comes with core for turbo build.

or kit tub core for proper V8 conversion, 993 style fender swaps, etc....

and composite hood.......

oh and did I mention it has a 6 speed??? those are getting hard to come by.

sky's the limit, man !!!

odurandina

today's 968s....

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...73671296&Log=0

only $100 k

http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/cto/4475072036.html

admiralkhole

That 100k 968 is a joke... It was purchased for 5k at an estate sale. It's not worth half his asking price.

Now that other one you posted, not bad.

Is it hard to find a manual vert?

V996

OD, I emailed about that 968 you posted. No response. Might call. Just a far trip from Canada plus I'd have to pay 6.1% duty to import a German made car. Such BS.

V996

As for my story, it all started with seeing a 996 for dirt cheap but I passed on it due to accident history+not being quite ready for big ticket maintenance items. In my searches on kijiji I saw these 944s and 924s going for dirt cheap, more in my price range. Did some research into why they were so cheap. The forum posts were worrisome but I was allured by being able to get a Posrche, a brand I've liked for a long time, for so cheap. Not to mention everyone praised the handling which matters to me above all else. And being told yearly maintenance on a "good" example would maybe be 1 or 2 grand/year did not deter me too much as car payments + insurance on a new boring econo car would be much more than that anyway. Even my "reliable" 97 Civic has big ticket items that go every year anyway. Gas tank replacement. Shift linkage fell off. Car starting overheating and almost ****ed the engine thanks to a hose clamp. Etc. Still less to maintain for sure than a 924/944 but not that much more. I just had to make sure I did my diligence and get myself something with good records and a good running engine. Found my black 924S which passed with flying colours outside of a few smaller issues which are common but not dealbreaking. Brand new clutch and brakes.

Had a frustrating start as the light switch immediately failed and the wiper motor just failed as well. Fixed both myself. Still have to do the belts/seals/water pump... just in case. But it's a big $$ job and I wouldn't trust myself to do it on my own. I've been running without doing so in the meantime and it makes me a little paranoid but the car is an absolute joy to drive and I don't regret it at all... so far! And I don't see myself getting rid of the car even when I "move on" to something better like a 968 or a 996 in a few years. I will still take it out as my first love and at least use it as a backup when the others need repairs.

odurandina

over time, factoring in the resale i.e.; if you ever decide to move on,

there's a good chance the cost of 968 ownership will compare favorably to 944 ownership.
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so, i'd choose a 968 despite the higher entrance fee. if it even ends up costing more to keep serviced (which will depend on a lot of factors), the 968 with straight pipes and 25.6" Dunlops can reach 162 mph.

and unlike the 944, the front end doesn't start floating at 125~130 mph.

over time, a 944T will easily cost the most $$$ to own.

so, i'd be jumping on this 968, and not long after, start looking for a parts car.

or begin accumulating v8 swap parts.

Chris12

I read through this thread entirely.

I'm not against a v8 swap, but I just wasn't clear: did you do an LSX swap in your 968? If so, what are you doing with your bullet proof 3.0?

odurandina

it's late, but at the end of this month I'm shipping the car to Eric Hill/TPC in Alvarado Texas,

the block and internals are going to a good home (in Central Tx), to be mated with a 2.7/8 valve turbo setup.

sitting on a pallet in Eric's shop is a short-stroke, 388 c.i./6.35 litre LS7. car is getting a fully built 968 box with long 3~6 gears, LSD, stage 2 clutch, and Constantine 944 torque tube w/ super-bearings.... cnc engine has all forged internals, ported heads, LS9 cam, and aluminum flywheel. it will be breathing through 1 3/4" long tubes into, huge y pipe, 3 1/2 inch exhaust with twin Borla resonators and 14 inch Magnaflow.... with this exhaust... the builder estimates 505~510 hp at the crank...


car should be ready by early September.


the 968 head, camshafts, computer/dme, and exhaust will be available.

V996

Approx how much does an ls swap cost including the engine?

admiralkhole

If you do all the work...4k+ depending on engine setup. You might be able to source parts/engines cheaper though. Or do your own fab work.

If you want a turnkey swap done on your car, you're looking at 7.5k++ maybe? Someone will chime in who knows more.

Chris12

Renegade offers complete, emissions legal swaps. Does anyone know of anywhere else?

I drove a newer gtp with a 6L LS7 in it, and it was rediculous. I can't imagine what a 968 would be like with that engine in it.. I'm a little surprised that you went with that aggressive of an engine. This is you DD, right?

odurandina

just look at all these beautiful craiglist finds;

we're chock full today. https://rennlist.com/forums/968-forum-71/

i'll just say it:

over the long haul, 968s will deliever a fair deal more driving pleasure,

service and performance fo your hard-earned dollar.

just changing to a 25.6" tire, and improving the exhausts, the cars will top 160mph.

the number 1 rule is: always get the best car you can afford.

why did the laws of automobile collecting cease to exist for all 944s built after 1991??

a 968 is truly nothing more than a 944S3.

a 968 is not just a 944.....

Jesus, man, compared to a 944, a 968 is a god damned icbm.

i'll get flamed for this, look, we all like 944s,

but i'm amazed how so many people still go for older and older

and older and older virtually, totally beat up 944s as their first P-cars,

of course, this isn't true for every example,

but, too often, people ignore the 968s..... this is a huge mistake, imo.....

the 968s selling on Craigslist are as old as all the 944s were just a few years ago, yet, they present an echelon of maintenance history, future enjoyment vs problems, and a level performance so many levels above that of many, if not most 944s..... and still, they're not outrageously priced.

i'm not unsympathetic to those who say, stupid should hurt.

keeping score, from the pure numbers of avatars long gone from the forums in the past few years,

it sure appears stupid never fails them.

raleighBahn

968 is a nice car. In fact, theres not many porsches of any model I wouldn't want to own. The 944/951 is a beloved platform, for a variety of reasons, as evidenced by this being the most active board on rennlist bar none. Its sales also carried Porsche for a solid decade - it is the quintessential 80s sports car. Long live all of them, and blessings upon the fanatics that share the passion. Love doesn't always make sense. If it were cold and logical, we probably would all be with someone different (and driving a Prius).

odonnell

Alan I agree with you on a lot of things, but at the age of our cars... I think a '83 is just as likely (or unlikely?) as a '93 to have recent belts, rubber bits, etc... it just depends on the owner. I consider myself lucky that my PO was fairly attentive so I had less catching up to do.

I'm biased but I have to stick up for the early cars here... can't beat them for the raw and retro feel. Easy maintenance, the 968 has it beat on the clutch job but that's about it.

odurandina

engine management. levels removed from the 944 garbage.