choosing the right Porsche 944 for fun, daily-driving, or hard-core "restore..."
03-11-2013, 09:59 AM
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had not seen this post before. new to the 944 forum, but not old Porsches.
after doing some work on two 914s for a guy, now I am up to my eyeballs in 944s, recently picked up two, non-running.
working on an 87 944S, making great progress.
86 944 Turbo sitting covered that needs to have an engine install finished just waiting for me to finish the 944S.
over the past few years I have done a LOT of wrenching on my 85 911 and 84 928S. both running great. so just had to go find my self some problems and think I succeeded.
but I get so much enjoyment from these cars, including the wrenching and satisfaction of keeping them in top shape.
and totally enjoy driving them. even 25+ yrs old, when properly prepared and maintained not sure I would enjoy a different car as much at these price points.
as commented in several posts here, if you can't do your own wrenching these cars can empty your wallet.
my dad who was a mechanic figures I have a few more years of 'having fun wrenching' before I get burned out, sell em all, and buy a honda.
after doing some work on two 914s for a guy, now I am up to my eyeballs in 944s, recently picked up two, non-running.
working on an 87 944S, making great progress.
86 944 Turbo sitting covered that needs to have an engine install finished just waiting for me to finish the 944S.
over the past few years I have done a LOT of wrenching on my 85 911 and 84 928S. both running great. so just had to go find my self some problems and think I succeeded.
but I get so much enjoyment from these cars, including the wrenching and satisfaction of keeping them in top shape.
and totally enjoy driving them. even 25+ yrs old, when properly prepared and maintained not sure I would enjoy a different car as much at these price points.
as commented in several posts here, if you can't do your own wrenching these cars can empty your wallet.
my dad who was a mechanic figures I have a few more years of 'having fun wrenching' before I get burned out, sell em all, and buy a honda.
03-11-2013, 09:04 PM
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911tracker85: If you can't do your own wrenching any car can empty your wallet. And the only Honda you should buy if you ever give up on P-cars is a gently preowned NSX.
03-11-2013, 09:29 PM
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So hard to find a turbo that hasn't been frankensteined by a bunch of PO.The 968 is a thing of beauty.Graceful power,good looks,very comfortable to drive,and I believe a resale that is the best of the bunch.944na still beautiful and short track,autocross beast!
Our only next choice is the boxster.Up here in Canada it's hard to find a 2002 boxster S for under 18.Most are still 20 to 22grand.Add our 13% sales tax and your over 20 just to start.Then add the higher consumables for tires,etc.The biggest thing that scares me(not even mentioning ims,rms)is the many electronic and mechanical doodads that can go wrong. Regulator this and that at 800 to 1600 bucks per piece and there is nothing you can do about it.Don't forget about that top that's gonna wear out soon.If you looove convertibles that's cool but I think most of us here like track,autocross,etc. so we are the few people that grin when we here sunroof delete.If I could work on a boxster like I could a 944 then my opinion may change a little. How many boxsters do you see in a day?How many front engine Porsches you see in a month? I love the look of our cars driving down the road,rare and beautiful.So ya,we replace stuff on our cars quite often but the stuff is cheap, and fun half the time to tinker with. How much for a tranny,engine,suspension,etc on a boxster? Keep those 944/turbo/968 alive boys and have fun doing it!!!!!!!!!!
Our only next choice is the boxster.Up here in Canada it's hard to find a 2002 boxster S for under 18.Most are still 20 to 22grand.Add our 13% sales tax and your over 20 just to start.Then add the higher consumables for tires,etc.The biggest thing that scares me(not even mentioning ims,rms)is the many electronic and mechanical doodads that can go wrong. Regulator this and that at 800 to 1600 bucks per piece and there is nothing you can do about it.Don't forget about that top that's gonna wear out soon.If you looove convertibles that's cool but I think most of us here like track,autocross,etc. so we are the few people that grin when we here sunroof delete.If I could work on a boxster like I could a 944 then my opinion may change a little. How many boxsters do you see in a day?How many front engine Porsches you see in a month? I love the look of our cars driving down the road,rare and beautiful.So ya,we replace stuff on our cars quite often but the stuff is cheap, and fun half the time to tinker with. How much for a tranny,engine,suspension,etc on a boxster? Keep those 944/turbo/968 alive boys and have fun doing it!!!!!!!!!!
My 12 year old daughter wants a 944 as her first car. So the good news I can build her one with very little $ with a real manual which after she moves on to something else sadly she will rarely ever have the chance to enjoy again the way things are going.
03-12-2013, 01:36 PM
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In my experience, the 968 actually cost more to maintain than my 944 Turbo and the cars have similar mileage (around 75k). The 968 cost me about $ 1,600 /year on average. This included a few upgrades, some dealer fixes, some independent shop fixes, and some of my own wrenching. The 944Turbo is more like $1,000 per year or maybe slightly less with the same type of maintenance.
The Turbo proved to be MUCH more reliable (knock on wood) than the 968, depsite a couple DE events, heat from a turbo, and age. Its been an anomaly, perhaps. The 968 (recently sold) acted much more liks a 20 year old car in that it ran and was reliable for the most part but would have unexpected failures from time to time.
In some ways, a 25 year old car that has been maintained and rebuilt along the way is more reliable than a 10-15 year old car that is all original and just entering into the zone where things start to fall apart and need replaced.
There are still 944s out there that were neglected and missed out on a lot of rebuilding/maintenance, so they are in need of major help or are better off being scraped. But, the cared for examples seem well suited for daily service and even regional road trips of a few hundred mile radius. The good ones left are worth saving....and using.
The Turbo proved to be MUCH more reliable (knock on wood) than the 968, depsite a couple DE events, heat from a turbo, and age. Its been an anomaly, perhaps. The 968 (recently sold) acted much more liks a 20 year old car in that it ran and was reliable for the most part but would have unexpected failures from time to time.
In some ways, a 25 year old car that has been maintained and rebuilt along the way is more reliable than a 10-15 year old car that is all original and just entering into the zone where things start to fall apart and need replaced.
There are still 944s out there that were neglected and missed out on a lot of rebuilding/maintenance, so they are in need of major help or are better off being scraped. But, the cared for examples seem well suited for daily service and even regional road trips of a few hundred mile radius. The good ones left are worth saving....and using.
03-13-2013, 12:09 PM
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my 968 has had 2 big waves of part replacement and failures.
first wave started at about 60 k miles and virtually bankrupted the original owner of my car from 60 K~77 k (when i took over), costing him just north of 9 thousand dollars (almost too much stuff to name).... the gentleman was 80 years old, never beat on the car, and always had his car serviced at a proper shop...... but when he finally got a speeding ticket, his wife said, 'that's it, you're selling that blasted thing."
i negociated with the seller that despite all he had done, i listed about 15 more items that needed to be done immediately, so i added that to the price i was offering (saying, 'this thing is heading straight to the shop in Raleigh before i even drive it home...... it would be irresponsible to attempt driving it on the long trip beforehand' LOL), and he reluctanly agreed.
in fact, he felt so bad, that he even shook my hand after i gave him the cashier's check (so low i can't evaaan say) for this totally immaculate, Grand Prix White dream from the sunbelt.... i told him i would have to be going, if i wanted to make it home not too long after my bedtime, and made my gettaway.
second major wave of repairs started at like 146 k, with the starter motor, then the headgasket (fixed with headgasket sealer), ac pump, clutch, and poor-quality oem/Mexico Porsche H20 pump just in time to do the belts. the belts outlived the H20 pump. i'm sure i could have ran the belts another 40 k miles.
on my first P-car, a 1987 944S, purchased in 1990, i ran the original belts 116 k miles, before grenading the engine due to a second unrelated case of crass, aggrivated negligence.
funny thing..... my ps pump has been leaking since i bought the car, but like 94 k miles later, it hasn't gotten any worse !!
first wave started at about 60 k miles and virtually bankrupted the original owner of my car from 60 K~77 k (when i took over), costing him just north of 9 thousand dollars (almost too much stuff to name).... the gentleman was 80 years old, never beat on the car, and always had his car serviced at a proper shop...... but when he finally got a speeding ticket, his wife said, 'that's it, you're selling that blasted thing."
i negociated with the seller that despite all he had done, i listed about 15 more items that needed to be done immediately, so i added that to the price i was offering (saying, 'this thing is heading straight to the shop in Raleigh before i even drive it home...... it would be irresponsible to attempt driving it on the long trip beforehand' LOL), and he reluctanly agreed.
in fact, he felt so bad, that he even shook my hand after i gave him the cashier's check (so low i can't evaaan say) for this totally immaculate, Grand Prix White dream from the sunbelt.... i told him i would have to be going, if i wanted to make it home not too long after my bedtime, and made my gettaway.
second major wave of repairs started at like 146 k, with the starter motor, then the headgasket (fixed with headgasket sealer), ac pump, clutch, and poor-quality oem/Mexico Porsche H20 pump just in time to do the belts. the belts outlived the H20 pump. i'm sure i could have ran the belts another 40 k miles.
on my first P-car, a 1987 944S, purchased in 1990, i ran the original belts 116 k miles, before grenading the engine due to a second unrelated case of crass, aggrivated negligence.
funny thing..... my ps pump has been leaking since i bought the car, but like 94 k miles later, it hasn't gotten any worse !!
09-12-2013, 04:18 PM
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So I was owned BMW's, 325, M3 E46, E60 550, and Audi S4, from all cars S4 and 550 was bad, I'm lucky enough had warranty for E60 550, so looking at this car below would you recommend buying for 6,500 or 6,000. I'm going tomorrow to see this car and will take to local shop for inspection. Your ideas please.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1990-...orcev4exp=true
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1990-...orcev4exp=true
09-12-2013, 04:56 PM
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my 968 has had 2 big waves of part replacement and failures.
first wave started at about 60 k miles and virtually bankrupted the original owner of my car from 60 K~77 k (when i took over), costing him just north of 9 thousand dollars (almost too much stuff to name).... the gentleman was 80 years old, never beat on the car, and always had his car serviced at a proper shop...... but when he finally got a speeding ticket, his wife said, 'that's it, you're selling that blasted thing."
i negociated with the seller that despite all he had done, i listed about 15 more items that needed to be done immediately, so i added that to the price i was offering (saying, 'this thing is heading straight to the shop in Raleigh before i even drive it home...... it would be irresponsible to attempt driving it on the long trip beforehand' LOL), and he reluctanly agreed.
in fact, he felt so bad, that he even shook my hand after i gave him the cashier's check (so low i can't evaaan say) for this totally immaculate, Grand Prix White dream from the sunbelt.... i told him i would have to be going, if i wanted to make it home not too long after my bedtime, and made my gettaway.
second major wave of repairs started at like 146 k, with the starter motor, then the headgasket (fixed with headgasket sealer), ac pump, clutch, and poor-quality oem/Mexico Porsche H20 pump just in time to do the belts. the belts outlived the H20 pump. i'm sure i could have ran the belts another 40 k miles.
on my first P-car, a 1987 944S, purchased in 1990, i ran the original belts 116 k miles, before grenading the engine due to a second unrelated case of crass, aggrivated negligence.
funny thing..... my ps pump has been leaking since i bought the car, but like 94 k miles later, it hasn't gotten any worse !!
first wave started at about 60 k miles and virtually bankrupted the original owner of my car from 60 K~77 k (when i took over), costing him just north of 9 thousand dollars (almost too much stuff to name).... the gentleman was 80 years old, never beat on the car, and always had his car serviced at a proper shop...... but when he finally got a speeding ticket, his wife said, 'that's it, you're selling that blasted thing."
i negociated with the seller that despite all he had done, i listed about 15 more items that needed to be done immediately, so i added that to the price i was offering (saying, 'this thing is heading straight to the shop in Raleigh before i even drive it home...... it would be irresponsible to attempt driving it on the long trip beforehand' LOL), and he reluctanly agreed.
in fact, he felt so bad, that he even shook my hand after i gave him the cashier's check (so low i can't evaaan say) for this totally immaculate, Grand Prix White dream from the sunbelt.... i told him i would have to be going, if i wanted to make it home not too long after my bedtime, and made my gettaway.
second major wave of repairs started at like 146 k, with the starter motor, then the headgasket (fixed with headgasket sealer), ac pump, clutch, and poor-quality oem/Mexico Porsche H20 pump just in time to do the belts. the belts outlived the H20 pump. i'm sure i could have ran the belts another 40 k miles.
on my first P-car, a 1987 944S, purchased in 1990, i ran the original belts 116 k miles, before grenading the engine due to a second unrelated case of crass, aggrivated negligence.
funny thing..... my ps pump has been leaking since i bought the car, but like 94 k miles later, it hasn't gotten any worse !!
1st major one came in high school when the crank bolt came loose. I was a stupid 18 year old and drove the rest of the mile to school. Scored all the cylinders pretty bad. That was about a $15k repair.
2nd one was when the engine that was built for that blowup...blew up. Crank snapped clean in half, had what used to be a rod bearing thrown all over the place, and of course, the dang cylinders were scored to death. I'd say that was roughly $6k, although only $3-4k actually went into the car. The other $2k were for parts that I thought I'd need when rebuilding before I just bought a running takeout, so now I get to use them on my next rebuild (bearings, crank...)
3rd was a few months ago when the brand new clutch broke. Center broke out and the kevlar turned to a red Mar's like dust that coated everything in the housing. Pressure plate was ruined of course. This job was only like $1,300 due to the fact that I did a lot of "while I'm in there's."
I'm just gonna say it now, the transmission is the next thing to go. It should have roughly 300k miles on it (though the odometer is broken so...). My friends give me a hard time because the only thing on the car that's lasted 300k miles is from Audi...
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So I was owned BMW's, 325, M3 E46, E60 550, and Audi S4, from all cars S4 and 550 was bad, I'm lucky enough had warranty for E60 550, so looking at this car below would you recommend buying for 6,500 or 6,000. I'm going tomorrow to see this car and will take to local shop for inspection. Your ideas please.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1990-...orcev4exp=true
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1990-...orcev4exp=true
09-12-2013, 05:09 PM
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yes it's in Greesboro NC do you want join me, but I'm not sure where you are. I will go there. I bid but they have high reserved, I have already get deal price for 6500, so I don't know if I should drop more or just take it.
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there are those on the forum who believe a good turbo project rises to the highest places on the evolutionary scale of German/Porsche-radness....
ok, you're it.
but, after seeing so many blow up,
it's clear to see that only the best of the best have what it takes.
generally, i like the idea of the 3.0 turbo.
I'd have given one serious consideration if I had ever been persuaded the rewards were in line with the sacrifice.
but it never got close. i witnessed all the many 2.5 horror shows.
and while it seemed 375 hp at the crank was 100% good for the 3.0, the money was insane.
totally insane.
would I have been wrenching? Jesus no. not in a million years.
still, some act like staying all Porsche is some kind of automotive law.
if you're gonna sell the thing in a show, ok.
i don't want to get greasy. that phase of life is over.
i don't want to go broke.
i want to drive (and see the car off the road as seldom as possible).
the oem equipment was great 25 years ago. i know. i had one.
you 3.0 turbo guys sure have a good engine.
almost wish i could afford one.
almost. i like it.... and wouldn't it have been great if Porsche had liked it too??
sure, they put a few in production - apparently to please Harm Lagaay.
but these turbo projects (yours included) speak volumes about the extortion you have to pay to Porsche in parts, the machine shop in NASA-level precision to build one, then what appears to amount to a near-monumental effort to tune it....
and in the end, for all your thousands of dollars, you get to run an engine at the brink of meltdown just to get back some usable power from their highly compromised, surly engine design.
and every 2 years (if going by my driving) you'd get to tear half of it down and replace the H20 pump, belts, AC pump etc (cuz since you're down there)....
for those willing to accept a dose of reality, that car your building simply isn't practical anymore (if it ever was) for nearly anyone living in the United States.... sorry; not even close. I looked into it. but spending close to $30,000 dollars for a crap shoot that might just as soon blow up (like the 120 cars Lart has parted) just wasn't for me.
don't get me wrong, i admire the turbo guys immensely. brave souls and more....
but frankly, I'm done with timing belts and paying a king's ransom to keep these serpentine parts, cooling and timing systems together.
instead of paying extortion in parts and shop hour, i'll join those bucking the trend.
for the super purists, you can keep the fine German engine and apoplectic attitude.
all good.
I'll have my V8.
my limited wrenching experience....
tune ups, brakes, and fluid changes on my 944 and 968. 220 k miles driving and paying for the timing belts...
I've done 3 engine swaps before, right in my garage, including dropping a
Chrysler 440 into a Chevy Malibu and making it all work.
it was plenty of wrenching for me. but, that too is over. I've moved on.
i'll do tuneups, brakes and detailing.
it wasn't NASA, but swapping this GM V8 into my 968, is indeed pretty technical for me.... while i know i could do some of it, far better to concentrate on one specialty and pay a specialist to apply all his knowledge and tooling on the other.
as to the power-plant that's dead solid perfect for these cars.
an LS3 crate cost's 1/3 what Porsche 3.0 costs to build, 1/3 the money to maintain it, only works 1/2 as hard and with the proper gears on board goes twice as far.
GOD DOESN'T THAT SUCK!! I don't think of it in terms of bragging rights from one continent or nation vs another. it's just a pushrod V8 that makes tons of reliable power....
and soulless or not, it'll blow the doors of just about anything from Europe costing twice the money.
if there were a BMW or Audi V8 that was a perfect fit you America haters would be all over it.
my swap continues to make solid progress.
it's one of the most potent LSx combos you can build.
Siamese LS7 engine block. 100% maximum bore width/under-square design capable of 8,000 rpm (if i ran a race cam/valvetrain setup).... 6,345 cc's and 500~510 hp.
if my funds keep up, it should be in the car in about 120 days.
thanks for reading.
ok, you're it.
but, after seeing so many blow up,
it's clear to see that only the best of the best have what it takes.
generally, i like the idea of the 3.0 turbo.
I'd have given one serious consideration if I had ever been persuaded the rewards were in line with the sacrifice.
but it never got close. i witnessed all the many 2.5 horror shows.
and while it seemed 375 hp at the crank was 100% good for the 3.0, the money was insane.
totally insane.
would I have been wrenching? Jesus no. not in a million years.
still, some act like staying all Porsche is some kind of automotive law.
if you're gonna sell the thing in a show, ok.
i don't want to get greasy. that phase of life is over.
i don't want to go broke.
i want to drive (and see the car off the road as seldom as possible).
the oem equipment was great 25 years ago. i know. i had one.
you 3.0 turbo guys sure have a good engine.
almost wish i could afford one.
almost. i like it.... and wouldn't it have been great if Porsche had liked it too??
sure, they put a few in production - apparently to please Harm Lagaay.
but these turbo projects (yours included) speak volumes about the extortion you have to pay to Porsche in parts, the machine shop in NASA-level precision to build one, then what appears to amount to a near-monumental effort to tune it....
and in the end, for all your thousands of dollars, you get to run an engine at the brink of meltdown just to get back some usable power from their highly compromised, surly engine design.
and every 2 years (if going by my driving) you'd get to tear half of it down and replace the H20 pump, belts, AC pump etc (cuz since you're down there)....
for those willing to accept a dose of reality, that car your building simply isn't practical anymore (if it ever was) for nearly anyone living in the United States.... sorry; not even close. I looked into it. but spending close to $30,000 dollars for a crap shoot that might just as soon blow up (like the 120 cars Lart has parted) just wasn't for me.
don't get me wrong, i admire the turbo guys immensely. brave souls and more....
but frankly, I'm done with timing belts and paying a king's ransom to keep these serpentine parts, cooling and timing systems together.
instead of paying extortion in parts and shop hour, i'll join those bucking the trend.
for the super purists, you can keep the fine German engine and apoplectic attitude.
all good.
I'll have my V8.
my limited wrenching experience....
tune ups, brakes, and fluid changes on my 944 and 968. 220 k miles driving and paying for the timing belts...
I've done 3 engine swaps before, right in my garage, including dropping a
Chrysler 440 into a Chevy Malibu and making it all work.
it was plenty of wrenching for me. but, that too is over. I've moved on.
i'll do tuneups, brakes and detailing.
it wasn't NASA, but swapping this GM V8 into my 968, is indeed pretty technical for me.... while i know i could do some of it, far better to concentrate on one specialty and pay a specialist to apply all his knowledge and tooling on the other.
as to the power-plant that's dead solid perfect for these cars.
an LS3 crate cost's 1/3 what Porsche 3.0 costs to build, 1/3 the money to maintain it, only works 1/2 as hard and with the proper gears on board goes twice as far.
GOD DOESN'T THAT SUCK!! I don't think of it in terms of bragging rights from one continent or nation vs another. it's just a pushrod V8 that makes tons of reliable power....
and soulless or not, it'll blow the doors of just about anything from Europe costing twice the money.
if there were a BMW or Audi V8 that was a perfect fit you America haters would be all over it.
my swap continues to make solid progress.
it's one of the most potent LSx combos you can build.
Siamese LS7 engine block. 100% maximum bore width/under-square design capable of 8,000 rpm (if i ran a race cam/valvetrain setup).... 6,345 cc's and 500~510 hp.
if my funds keep up, it should be in the car in about 120 days.
thanks for reading.
12-08-2013, 10:05 AM
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You have a lot of valid points there and I can agree with a lot of them.
However, it is what suits YOU, not everybody on this board and your comments on everything related to porsche engines should reflect that instead of dissing.
I am not building myself a daily driver since I have a 6cyl. bmw and ducati bike for dd. I am building it to learn and to fulfill my unused talent.
V8 conversion you keep spaming with is only viable where you live, the rest of the world does not have abundance of these engnes and feels the same about them than you feel to other obsolete euro engines.
I don't mind if you metion it as a option, but I do mind if you BS how bad the original is every chance you get, since it is very far from truth.
Your bad experience is either bad luck or the problem is in you, not in engine. If the former is true, V8 will not be your savior.
However, it is what suits YOU, not everybody on this board and your comments on everything related to porsche engines should reflect that instead of dissing.
I am not building myself a daily driver since I have a 6cyl. bmw and ducati bike for dd. I am building it to learn and to fulfill my unused talent.
V8 conversion you keep spaming with is only viable where you live, the rest of the world does not have abundance of these engnes and feels the same about them than you feel to other obsolete euro engines.
I don't mind if you metion it as a option, but I do mind if you BS how bad the original is every chance you get, since it is very far from truth.
Your bad experience is either bad luck or the problem is in you, not in engine. If the former is true, V8 will not be your savior.
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this is an extremely well sorted 968.
for what Doc has done to this car including over 1 million new parts and fresh paint, the price is ridiculously low.
it's a car serious enthusiasts/buyers should be looking at.
https://rennlist.com/forums/968-foru...good-home.html
for what Doc has done to this car including over 1 million new parts and fresh paint, the price is ridiculously low.
it's a car serious enthusiasts/buyers should be looking at.
https://rennlist.com/forums/968-foru...good-home.html
You all know the story, but if you don't, and aren't interested in hunting here it goes.
I bought this as a thrasher for $1800 sitting in a back yard in Dallas TX. The TB job was started, and for whatever reason was not completed. The seller was an idiot, and the car was quite rough, although the major components were in good shape.
I bought the car, and began resto May of 11. Many, many parts replaced, and much work done on systems to get it sorted pretty well. I'm moving on to another fixer and I'll let this one go. Good home or not, if you have munny, it's yours.
Current deficiencies that I'm not going to mess with much: Neither mirror adjusts electrically. They adjust fine by my finger. Sunroof drive motor wire is disconnected. It works, but I never use it, so it's not connected. Temp display backlight isn't working. Shifter boot has a small tear, and isn't very good looking. Maybe I'll get a new one this week. Very slow leak on the front crank. Balance shaft seals were done, but not the crank. Rear wiper asm is removed, it works, but it's off the car. Seat bottoms are cracked a bit, I have seat covers over. Dash cracks. Water temp gauge sticks when first started. I have to tap it to see it work. Amps removed, come with car.
I might do the seat covers when I order the shifter boot, but maybe not. If I can get into the shifter console, I guess I'll mess with the mirror wiring and sort that out.
Partial list of parts repl: grill, radiator, thermostat, aux belt, timing belt, balance belt, shaft seals, motor mounts, clutch slave, fuel injectors, ign cap, rotor, wires, custom clear belt cover, cam cover gasket, AC comp, R12, batt, inst lights(LED), door seal, wipers, hatch struts, various lamps, radio, wiring, shocks, and some stuff I've forgot.
Parts that come with car, not installed; Cam chain pads(inspected, not worn), beading for body rocker cover, beading/gasket for behind door handle, crank seal, axle boots, new engine under-tray, old cruise unit, old amps, some other bits.
92 model. 124k miles. 6sp manual. Cobalt met blue, black int. 17 cup wheels. Option 494 stereo(amps removed), replaced by a Sony 30WPC radio with CD/aux/USB/FM/AM source, custom fitted trailer hitch, red calipers, Nexen Z tires all around. Runs great now.
$8999 or any offer/trade.
I bought this as a thrasher for $1800 sitting in a back yard in Dallas TX. The TB job was started, and for whatever reason was not completed. The seller was an idiot, and the car was quite rough, although the major components were in good shape.
I bought the car, and began resto May of 11. Many, many parts replaced, and much work done on systems to get it sorted pretty well. I'm moving on to another fixer and I'll let this one go. Good home or not, if you have munny, it's yours.
Current deficiencies that I'm not going to mess with much: Neither mirror adjusts electrically. They adjust fine by my finger. Sunroof drive motor wire is disconnected. It works, but I never use it, so it's not connected. Temp display backlight isn't working. Shifter boot has a small tear, and isn't very good looking. Maybe I'll get a new one this week. Very slow leak on the front crank. Balance shaft seals were done, but not the crank. Rear wiper asm is removed, it works, but it's off the car. Seat bottoms are cracked a bit, I have seat covers over. Dash cracks. Water temp gauge sticks when first started. I have to tap it to see it work. Amps removed, come with car.
I might do the seat covers when I order the shifter boot, but maybe not. If I can get into the shifter console, I guess I'll mess with the mirror wiring and sort that out.
Partial list of parts repl: grill, radiator, thermostat, aux belt, timing belt, balance belt, shaft seals, motor mounts, clutch slave, fuel injectors, ign cap, rotor, wires, custom clear belt cover, cam cover gasket, AC comp, R12, batt, inst lights(LED), door seal, wipers, hatch struts, various lamps, radio, wiring, shocks, and some stuff I've forgot.
Parts that come with car, not installed; Cam chain pads(inspected, not worn), beading for body rocker cover, beading/gasket for behind door handle, crank seal, axle boots, new engine under-tray, old cruise unit, old amps, some other bits.
92 model. 124k miles. 6sp manual. Cobalt met blue, black int. 17 cup wheels. Option 494 stereo(amps removed), replaced by a Sony 30WPC radio with CD/aux/USB/FM/AM source, custom fitted trailer hitch, red calipers, Nexen Z tires all around. Runs great now.
$8999 or any offer/trade.