I am making reproduction Porsche engine cases!
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As to the exact details of how they do things, I think I have said it before but I will say it again - the foundry has been in business under the same family ownership since 1946, so they really do know what they are doing. With my extremely limited casting experience, I don't normally drive the bus on exact procedures - I trust they know how to accomplish what I want. I say things like "I want a better surface finish" and they react accordingly.
Petro bond was their idea also, but he is hesitant to do too much of that because he gets complaints from the locals. Remember, this is CA where belching smoke stacks are not as accepted as they are in NJ.
There is an absolute danger in me reading things on the internet and then telling the foundry what to do. I quite frankly lack the experience to make recommendations to them about exact procedures, so, like I said, I speak to them in terms of desired outcome and trust their judgment. Great group of guys who are heavily invested in my project and want to excel.
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When I post the video next week you'll see the old method they were using.
As to the exact details of how they do things, I think I have said it before but I will say it again - the foundry has been in business under the same family ownership since 1946, so they really do know what they are doing. With my extremely limited casting experience, I don't normally drive the bus on exact procedures - I trust they know how to accomplish what I want. I say things like "I want a better surface finish" and they react accordingly.
Petro bond was their idea also, but he is hesitant to do too much of that because he gets complaints from the locals. Remember, this is CA where belching smoke stacks are not as accepted as they are in NJ.
There is an absolute danger in me reading things on the internet and then telling the foundry what to do. I quite frankly lack the experience to make recommendations to them about exact procedures, so, like I said, I speak to them in terms of desired outcome and trust their judgment. Great group of guys who are heavily invested in my project and want to excel.
As to the exact details of how they do things, I think I have said it before but I will say it again - the foundry has been in business under the same family ownership since 1946, so they really do know what they are doing. With my extremely limited casting experience, I don't normally drive the bus on exact procedures - I trust they know how to accomplish what I want. I say things like "I want a better surface finish" and they react accordingly.
Petro bond was their idea also, but he is hesitant to do too much of that because he gets complaints from the locals. Remember, this is CA where belching smoke stacks are not as accepted as they are in NJ.
There is an absolute danger in me reading things on the internet and then telling the foundry what to do. I quite frankly lack the experience to make recommendations to them about exact procedures, so, like I said, I speak to them in terms of desired outcome and trust their judgment. Great group of guys who are heavily invested in my project and want to excel.
I understand your loyalty and how hard it is to find a half decent foundry, but from first hand experience, all I can say is trusting a foundry can be a huge mistake. When you see things from my side of the fence I hate to say it I can only shake my head. I am also confused because all of the well known foundries I am aware of in Southern CA produce very little product in the US due to CA's environmental laws and have most castings made in Mexico.
I am interested in seeing what the video shows me.
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Brings back memories. I miss the work it was always an adventure making something new.
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Love the video! I spent last summer working as a Heat Treat engineer at Chrysler and I spent a few days down in the prototype foundry, reminds me of watching them pouring aluminum down there!
I still don't know anywhere near enough about casting to evaluate their process but the product looks great.
I still don't know anywhere near enough about casting to evaluate their process but the product looks great.
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I didn't want to threadcrap this cool thread on Pelican:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...-rsr-3-6l.html
What's cool about it is that this guy is restoring / restomodding a sepia brown 911 and he builds a pretty neat garage along the way.
What is amazing about it is that he buys a smashed up 993 that has been sitting in a field for 15 years just for the motor, which he pulls from the car. The whole thing looks like it's covered in nasty oxidization and corrosion. And that's ultimately why I decided to make these cases.
No one should have to buy a smashed up car just to get the 3.6 motor out of it.
No one should have to deal with case corrosion - there is one on craigslist right now that looks like it was a coral reef for a decade.
No one should have to guess whether the motor they are pulling from a donor car is any good.
That thread basically justifies the existence of my project and shows how great a length people are going to in order to get a 3.6 engine, and frankly it's totally ridiculous. I want you to yank that 993 out of a field because you want to restore it, not because you are after it's nasty corroded engine with seized fasteners.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...-rsr-3-6l.html
What's cool about it is that this guy is restoring / restomodding a sepia brown 911 and he builds a pretty neat garage along the way.
What is amazing about it is that he buys a smashed up 993 that has been sitting in a field for 15 years just for the motor, which he pulls from the car. The whole thing looks like it's covered in nasty oxidization and corrosion. And that's ultimately why I decided to make these cases.
No one should have to buy a smashed up car just to get the 3.6 motor out of it.
No one should have to deal with case corrosion - there is one on craigslist right now that looks like it was a coral reef for a decade.
No one should have to guess whether the motor they are pulling from a donor car is any good.
That thread basically justifies the existence of my project and shows how great a length people are going to in order to get a 3.6 engine, and frankly it's totally ridiculous. I want you to yank that 993 out of a field because you want to restore it, not because you are after it's nasty corroded engine with seized fasteners.
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Exactly!
For my upcoming build, I'm planning on a Taormina case, LN cylinder barrels, Auto Verdi oil pump, Pure Performance Motorsport crankshaft, Carillo rods and pistons, Dougherty or maybe Web cams, Del West or Ferrea valves, Pauter rockers, PMO or Rothsport ITBs, Fabspeed exhaust, MoTec engine management, WEVO flywheel, SPEC clutch, and ARP fasteners; heads, cam towers and cam covers, we gotta talk about ...
At this point, I'm starting to think there's no point in buying a running donor car and tearing that down. Maybe I should just build the motor, buy a roller, and drop that in. The Taormina case makes that all possible, because that's the one part I can't just order up.
For my upcoming build, I'm planning on a Taormina case, LN cylinder barrels, Auto Verdi oil pump, Pure Performance Motorsport crankshaft, Carillo rods and pistons, Dougherty or maybe Web cams, Del West or Ferrea valves, Pauter rockers, PMO or Rothsport ITBs, Fabspeed exhaust, MoTec engine management, WEVO flywheel, SPEC clutch, and ARP fasteners; heads, cam towers and cam covers, we gotta talk about ...
At this point, I'm starting to think there's no point in buying a running donor car and tearing that down. Maybe I should just build the motor, buy a roller, and drop that in. The Taormina case makes that all possible, because that's the one part I can't just order up.
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Exactly!
For my upcoming build, I'm planning on a Taormina case, LN cylinder barrels, Auto Verdi oil pump, Pure Performance Motorsport crankshaft, Carillo rods and pistons, Dougherty or maybe Web cams, Del West or Ferrea valves, Pauter rockers, PMO or Rothsport ITBs, Fabspeed exhaust, MoTec engine management, WEVO flywheel, SPEC clutch, and ARP fasteners; heads, cam towers and cam covers, we gotta talk about ...
At this point, I'm starting to think there's no point in buying a running donor car and tearing that down. Maybe I should just build the motor, buy a roller, and drop that in. The Taormina case makes that all possible, because that's the one part I can't just order up.
For my upcoming build, I'm planning on a Taormina case, LN cylinder barrels, Auto Verdi oil pump, Pure Performance Motorsport crankshaft, Carillo rods and pistons, Dougherty or maybe Web cams, Del West or Ferrea valves, Pauter rockers, PMO or Rothsport ITBs, Fabspeed exhaust, MoTec engine management, WEVO flywheel, SPEC clutch, and ARP fasteners; heads, cam towers and cam covers, we gotta talk about ...
At this point, I'm starting to think there's no point in buying a running donor car and tearing that down. Maybe I should just build the motor, buy a roller, and drop that in. The Taormina case makes that all possible, because that's the one part I can't just order up.
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I don't think so. Of course, when I get to the point where I'm close to ordering parts, I'm going to have to make phone calls to all of the vendors and iron out details like that.
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No aftermarket layshafts that I am aware of. Certainly no crank manufacturer that I know of makes layshafts as well.
Layshafts are easy to check to see if they are in spec or not, and usually have very little wear. If the issue is whether the layshaft is a 0 or 1, you'll find that most out there anymore are 0 and our case is designed to 0 specs as opposed to 1 specs. If anyone has zero idea what I am talking about, just ask!
Layshafts are easy to check to see if they are in spec or not, and usually have very little wear. If the issue is whether the layshaft is a 0 or 1, you'll find that most out there anymore are 0 and our case is designed to 0 specs as opposed to 1 specs. If anyone has zero idea what I am talking about, just ask!
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No aftermarket layshafts that I am aware of. Certainly no crank manufacturer that I know of makes layshafts as well.
Layshafts are easy to check to see if they are in spec or not, and usually have very little wear. If the issue is whether the layshaft is a 0 or 1, you'll find that most out there anymore are 0 and our case is designed to 0 specs as opposed to 1 specs. If anyone has zero idea what I am talking about, just ask!
Layshafts are easy to check to see if they are in spec or not, and usually have very little wear. If the issue is whether the layshaft is a 0 or 1, you'll find that most out there anymore are 0 and our case is designed to 0 specs as opposed to 1 specs. If anyone has zero idea what I am talking about, just ask!
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