168glhs1986

Very well said. 6 years with any car when cars come and go in collections is a lot. That's a testimate to how good it is. I think you're kid is right The Sterrato to me seems like a novelty car, much like the 4RS. The 675 can and does do it all.

168glhs1986

For sure, but your talking about $485k min vs $300 to $380k ish.That's a big price jump. I think the build quality and reliablity is good. Not so much on the Artura at the moment. McLaren needs to figure out their hybrid system.

pfbz

I have a 720S and absolutely love it. It's still pricey. Though far less than a 765LT or the new 750S.

I've driven several 675LT's. From an 'investment' standpoint (or minimizing depreciation), it's the current pick. But no way I prefer it over my 720S track pack. It simply isn't higher quality or as good of a driving experience. Yes, I know that is not what most Mclaren fanboys will say, but all I can say is judge for yourself... Drive a 720S track-pack and a 675LT back to back on a fast road loop and see which one you prefer. Do try to find a 720S with the P1 carbon buckets and the upgraded 765 accumulator upgrade though if you want that GT car experience.

In that $120-150K range, i'd look for the right 650S, possibly still a CPO one, over the 570 sport series cars. WAY more car, past the 12C reliability issues, huge performance level, great looks, and super series suspension! Just an incredible amount of performance and engineering for the price.

I also spent some quality time in an Artura recently. I was really impressed. It is just a wonderfully driving car and a great experience, with really no hint of it being hybrid other than being incredibly quick and torquey in the lower rpm range. But not sure I'm ready to own a hybrid exotic yet. Let me rephrase that.... I am absolutely NOT ready to own a hybrid exotic!

By the way, all of the above applies primarily to fast canyon/street driving. I have tracked the Mclaren, but really prefer to track my modified 996 Turbo. It just loves getting driven hard session after session, easy to service, no hesitation to put someone else behind the wheel, and I don't get as freaked out if there are some less experienced drivers on the track. And in the unfortunate situation it gets hit or damaged on the track (knock on wood, hasn't happened), it's a bad day but not a focking catastrophe... Will it turn as fast of a lap time as a 720/675LT/765LT? Hell no. But I guarantee I'll have every bit as big of a smile on my face when I put together the right lap.

kkabba

I have driven and tracked the 720s. Its fast. It’s dull at the limit. It’s not for me. Great cars and coffee car though.

Pretty sure you lost most of us here when u started praising the freekin’ 996 on track? My 675 has never failed me on track and faster than anything in my hands outside of my 992RS.

pfbz

Lol... Whatever dude. But have to say you certainly come off as an *** with your cars and coffee comment.

If you found a 720S dull at the limit, my guess is that you were running basic P-zero's, old accumulators, a poorly set up car, or some combination of the above. Or just your own simple confirmation bias that your 675 was the shizzle.

PS: I know more than a few 996 based cars that would leave an as-built 992 RS wondering what the hell just passed it on the track.

kkabba

this is a 675 vs 4rs thread. I own both. it;s not a hey how about a 720 or a 966 thread.

i'm sure u can find another thread more relevant to what u own and like.

And yet to see on a race track a 996 that I've had to point by. They are super fun to drive on track though - all smiles.

168glhs1986

675 LT fan boys? You calling techs and McLaren staff fan boys. Sure the owners are biased but talk to the employees and they will tell you whats up. Bottom line is most all McLarens are great but

no other Super Series car has benefitted from 2 previous gens like the 675 LT has. 3 generation / facelifts to refine it. 12C polished into the 650s polished into the 675 LT. And to boot it's limited to 500 units each.

Maybe in the future McLaren will do this again, we shall see.

pfbz

Another attempt to come off as an ***? Success!!!

I had a GT4 RS, didn't love it. Sold it and bought a Mclaren Super Series, though yes, a newer monocoque II 720S, not a 675 LT. Driven both on and off the track. Seems apropos to this thread to me...

kkabba

Did the 4RS with its normal doors not get the attention you desired at your local cars and coffee? Dude go buy a 720 - oh, wait.

pfbz

Being an *** for a third time! Woohoo! You must be so much fun to hang out with...

If I wanted "attention", seems like the car to buy would be a 992 GT3 RS?... oh, wait.

The high profile of the 720S is perhaps what I like least about it. And if I was concerned about how much others liked or disliked the appearance of my cars vs. the driving experience, I probably wouldn't own multiple 996 Turbos.

ipse dixit

Not really.

You can find an early (i.e. 2021) 765LT for sub-400k list, which means you could probably walk out without touching 400k, tax, title, fees, etc. all in.

It is a jump, but not as big as one would imagine.


https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...erivedpriceASC

ipse dixit

Isn't this what the 750s is -- at least theoretically?

720 --> 765LT --> 750

flsupraguy

I've driven a 720s and 675lt at Sebring. Both great cars on track but wasnt engaging enough for me... Current fun car is 996 cup for the track. Perhaps there's a reason....

168glhs1986

No the 750s is all new. The 765 LT came out before the 750s. Once a car gets the LT badge it's onto the next.

The 720s stopped at the 765 LT. 750S will have it's own LT version at the end of it's life cycle.

That's what the experts tell me anyway.

168glhs1986

You guys are comparing manual to paddles.

Anything manual is going to be a totally different experience. then you are comparing a factory built race car to a street car. We are all over the place now.

And no one is a bigger 996 fan than me. My early build 996 is a LIFER. It's just as engaging as the OG Touring which is hi praise that most will never understand. But I digress.

Let's get back on track (pun intended). 4RS vs 675 LT. It's a great discussion.