porschejonno

Hey guys,

Wanted to get your feedback for those that driven or owned both cars. Which car would you prefer for 90% street and 10% track. I have the ability to get the McLaren 675lt at a pretty good price but can get the GT4 RS at MSRP if that helps as well.

lilbza

I haven't owned, nor driven neither, so my comment is probably a waste of time, but I'd imagine spending that kind of money on a car, it's something you would need to test drive yourself to decide.

FWIW, if someone had asked me this 5 years ago, I'd probably have said the McLaren because I cared about the status symbol of a car. Second to that, would be 0-100 times for bragging rights, but I no longer care for these type of things.

You mention 90% of the time will be street driven, both of these cars are going to get you into lose your license territory in a couple of secs in most places, so splitting hairs over performance figures would be pointless. Going fully circle here, drive both, and pick the one that speaks to you the most. If that's not an option, well I'd choose the GT4RS because I'm an NA groupie.

TRZ06

They are not really in the same league, maybe only in price because the GT4RS is so overly inflated in the market. One is a carbon tub, sub 3,000 lb. super car, the other is a traditional aluminum body frame parts bid Cayman with a GT3 motor.

disden

I have GT4 RS ordered, so I am biased but:
1. GT4 RS at MSRP is hard to pass up
2. wouldn’t want to track a McLaren that is out of warranty

lilbza

McLaren is definitely the obvious choice, it's the better car no doubt about it. I'd say I'd be in the minority with my choice.

TRZ06

Check out Speed Phenom's channel. He tracks his McLaren 600LT all the time and has not had a single issue. That is some real world data for ya, not just forum rumors

disden

i spend a lot of time at DEs. See a lot of broken Macs. Some outliers for sure, but there were also some reliable Yugos that racked up miles too. If there was one brand I wouldn’t want to beat up on track out of warranty it would be 100% Mac

Zhao

I doubt you'll find many people who have owned both of those cars to chime in here.

I haven't driven one but there is a 675lt at our shop right now for a front end accident. It's built quite well for fit and finish for a car built in a shed. It's probably the best looking mclaren (most have an ugly bug face ***) IMO. Surprisingly it doesn't look like a car built in a shed when you take the exterior panels off either which is also a problem with italian exotics (it's like italian engineers were all scaffolders in a past life) imo.

But at 42 I could see myself grabbing the Porsche keys more just because the 675 is an absolute nightmare to get in and out of. I couldn't imagine doing it at 60. It makes a lotus look like a practical daily driver. You also probably wouldn't want to park it outdoors or stop in the rain since the engine is exposed to the elements, wouldn't be fun to clean that if you care about that type of thing. I couldn't ever see my wife wanting to get into the mclaren. Reliability and maintenance costs scared me away from getting a mclaren. Just little quirky things go wrong and it's a huge cost. It'd be a weekend only go for a drive with perfect weather car to me. However, you'd have no shortage of guys wanting to go for a ride .

Mclarens are very fast on the track though..... Even the slowest mclaren is stupid fast with a good driver, especially with modern tires. At a normal track day with a mclaren on track you are likely going to attract attention, good and bad. You will have lots of people wanting to talk to you. If you aren't super skilled you will also have idiots trying to chase you down in track missile cars as a trophy. Very few people showing up at a track event with a car like that have a good experience unless they have already had extensive track experience under their belt. It is too much car for most people.

Underblu

Finding a GT4RS at MSRP is a “unicorn” in this market. I’m not sure how easy it is to get a 675LT at MSRP but I have to imagine its easier than the 4RS. I’d have to believe the 675LT will be far less dramatic at high speeds, make quick work of almost any racetrack, and still be comfortable enough to cruise around town. The 4RS will be a raucous E-ticket ride in the best way possible.

Surprised anyone is cross shopping them as one is a highly advanced carbon tubbed street race car and the other is a hot rodded GT4. While the 676LT is the more capable car, I’d probably get bored with it, I mean the thrill for me isn’t how fast you are going but how you feel going fast. YMMV

kkabba

I own both.

675LT for me is my favorite track car I’ve owned by far. Incredibly capable and so much feedback that you can get close to limit comfortably. For reference I’ve owned pretty much all the modern GT Porsche cars outside of 918 and Carrera GT and my PB around my local track is in the 675LT.

On the street the 4RS is really 2 cars in one which makes it super liveable. If left in normal mode and auto shift it drives and sounds like any normal sports car, especially with the super fast FAL. It’s size is also easy to maneuver. And outside of the Porsche geeks, most will think it’s just a Cayman with a big wing so relatively low key. The 675LT on the other hand is just not a practical daily in any way. It also has a horrible turning radius and the FAL takes and hour to lift the car.

As for running costs I have an extended warranty on the 675LT but it’s expensive and doesn’t cover everything. And costs of parts on the 675LT are obscene. Crack a bumper and you’re out the price of a Honda Accord.

Although the price of entry may be similar currently, ownership costs will likely be much higher on the 675 and for me it’s impracticality makes it better suited as a 3rd or 4th car in a rotation to be driven on special drives and for the track.

675LT is much more of a street/track driving experience to any Porsche GT cars I’ve owned. It also has the best steering feel I’ve ever experienced.

4RS is my favorite water cooled Porsche I’ve owned by far. If you can get one go for it - it’s incredible and liveable and the cabin drama at high revs is tough to replicate. To me it’s a total bargain anywhere close to MSRP.

clutchplate

A GT4 RS at MSRP is a no brainer. Should be worth at least that much for a long time while McLarens can depreciate like FTX crypto.

TRZ06

Not necessarily a bad thing if you are on the purchasing side and not the ownership side. Let the 1st owner take the hit, McLaren's are definitely a car that is best bought used if you are not super rich from a financial POV.

I would love to pick up a 600LT some day.

kkabba

@ OP

As an owner of both and to summarize:

- if you have to pick for financial reasons between them both get the 4RS, especially at MSRP

- if you can swing it buy both as the 675LT is in another league to all modern Porsche GT cars all around

G.Irish

Not true of the 675LT, especially at this point(same for the 765LT). I expect 675 prices to slowly creep up from here.

In the past McLaren produced too many units for the showroom floor that eventually lead to deep discounts to move them. They're not doing a lot of that anymore so you're unlikely to see significant discounts for new cars which means used prices will be more stable (and have been for awhile).

The GT4RS at MSRP is clearly gonna be the better bet depreciation-wise though. That's a no brainier for any GT car at MSRP in the current environment.

Reedy

I drove a McLaren at Spa a few years ago and the way the steering felt made me think I was some kind of telepathic alien driving a UFO. It felt that good.

That said, the Porsche will likely be a much better ownership experience overall.