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After that new found knowledge I decided owning a 675LT wasn't worth the 11k+ minimum per year required to spend on it for service/warranty which doesn't even cover everything on the car along with the potential room for more depreciation still to come(675LT's were 200k or less earlier). I ended up placing an order for a Spyder RS instead.
Yes that is another reason. my wife wants me to buy a ferrari purely because of the depreciation of the mclarens. i feel that whatever a 355 costs to keep running, it will be worth it because, well look at it!
but the drving dynamics of the latest 750S.. i dont know what more i could ask for in a car.
I drove a friends 765LT in the canyons here in Malibu, easily the best car I have ever driven(also drove his STO, F8, 488 and I owned a 458/4RS). That got me intrigued and my local dealer has a 675LT Spider for sale with 10k miles I could get for 250k so I went in for a test drive. The car wasn't as good as a 765LT but was still a great car and since I sold my 458 I figured this might be the time to try a 675LT to pair with my 4RS. I then asked a few important questions to me: 1. How much is the certified warranty to maintain per year? 7k 2. How much is the yearly maintenance on the car at the dealer which is required to maintain the warranty? 4k. 3. Is the warranty comprehensive? Answer is no and doesn't include things like accumulators which can fail in the suspension and often do apparently that cost about 4-5k each to replace with multiple in the car.
After that new found knowledge I decided owning a 675LT wasn't worth the 11k+ minimum per year required to spend on it for service/warranty which doesn't even cover everything on the car along with the potential room for more depreciation still to come(675LT's were 200k or less earlier). I ended up placing an order for a Spyder RS instead.
Those numbers are a bit off... I just re-upped the warranty on my 2020 720S Spider. $9,400 for two years ($4,700/yr) and about ~$2.5K for Mclaren annual service. Still expensive ($7,200/yr) but not $11K/yr.
Additionally, getting warranty extension and annuals at the Porsche dealer for a warranty expired car isn't free or cheap either, probably at least $4,500/yr, so less than a $2,700/yr premium for the Mclaren.
Note that the car has been pretty much flawless, no warranty service needed at all in the 14 months I've owned it, I just extended the warranty as insurance.
That said, if you are getting a new Spyder RS allocation without a $50K+ ADM, and place yearly operating costs and depreciation curve above performance, then the Spyder is a great choice. But make no mistake, it is not in the same performance league as a 675/720/765.
Tell us about the problems you had on the 1k trip. We'd love to know.
car is fixed, turns out to be a combination of bad wheel speed sensor/bad abs sensor/a leaky hydraulic fluid hose. Car felt more stout since it's back but I do keep looking at 765lt/750s more often
I drove a friends 765LT in the canyons here in Malibu, easily the best car I have ever driven(also drove his STO, F8, 488 and I owned a 458/4RS). That got me intrigued and my local dealer has a 675LT Spider for sale with 10k miles I could get for 250k so I went in for a test drive. The car wasn't as good as a 765LT but was still a great car and since I sold my 458 I figured this might be the time to try a 675LT to pair with my 4RS. I then asked a few important questions to me: 1. How much is the certified warranty to maintain per year? 7k 2. How much is the yearly maintenance on the car at the dealer which is required to maintain the warranty? 4k. 3. Is the warranty comprehensive? Answer is no and doesn't include things like accumulators which can fail in the suspension and often do apparently that cost about 4-5k each to replace with multiple in the car.
After that new found knowledge I decided owning a 675LT wasn't worth the 11k+ minimum per year required to spend on it for service/warranty which doesn't even cover everything on the car along with the potential room for more depreciation still to come(675LT's were 200k or less earlier). I ended up placing an order for a Spyder RS instead.
my srs will arrive august. which car to dump is constantly on my mind now. guess will find out when srs lands.
Those numbers are a bit off... I just re-upped the warranty on my 2020 720S Spider. $9,400 for two years ($4,700/yr) and about ~$2.5K for Mclaren annual service. Still expensive ($7,200/yr) but not $11K/yr.
Additionally, getting warranty extension and annuals at the Porsche dealer for a warranty expired car isn't free or cheap either, probably at least $4,500/yr, so less than a $2,700/yr premium for the Mclaren.
Note that the car has been pretty much flawless, no warranty service needed at all in the 14 months I've owned it, I just extended the warranty as insurance.
That said, if you are getting a new Spyder RS allocation without a $50K+ ADM, and place yearly operating costs and depreciation curve above performance, then the Spyder is a great choice. But make no mistake, it is not in the same performance league as a 675/720/765.
720 is newer so warranty is cheaper I guess? in my case cpo is about 7k/yr. accumulators are more like wear items mines got replaced during cpo process, but I don't think they're that costly @4-5k each? my local porsche dealer is now charging 500+ for a simple oil change, if it keep going up def will pass mclaren's number...
Those numbers are a bit off... I just re-upped the warranty on my 2020 720S Spider. $9,400 for two years ($4,700/yr) and about ~$2.5K for Mclaren annual service. Still expensive ($7,200/yr) but not $11K/yr.
Additionally, getting warranty extension and annuals at the Porsche dealer for a warranty expired car isn't free or cheap either, probably at least $4,500/yr, so less than a $2,700/yr premium for the Mclaren.
Note that the car has been pretty much flawless, no warranty service needed at all in the 14 months I've owned it, I just extended the warranty as insurance.
That said, if you are getting a new Spyder RS allocation without a $50K+ ADM, and place yearly operating costs and depreciation curve above performance, then the Spyder is a great choice. But make no mistake, it is not in the same performance league as a 675/720/765.
Maintenance and warranty is more expensive on an LT model compared to a normal 720s from what I was told. This is also the dealer in Beverly Hills so some markup could exist there. I personally would never consider a 720s or any of the none LT models. LT is the RS version and I don't need a softer Mclaren, if I did then I'd rather just buy a Ferrari and not deal with reliability/depreciation/more expensive Mclaren maintenance.
car is fixed, turns out to be a combination of bad wheel speed sensor/bad abs sensor/a leaky hydraulic fluid hose. Car felt more stout since it's back but I do keep looking at 765lt/750s more often
Don't drive a 765LT or it will make you feel like the 675LT is just mediocre, I wouldn't even consider a 750s though. I think that was my mistake, driving a friends 765LT in the canyons and then taking a 675LT for a test drive it made me think the 675LT wasn't worth the headaches/extra costs compared to my 4RS and now incoming SRS. If I had to rank the cars in terms of fun that I've driven/owned recently it would be like this:
my srs will arrive august. which car to dump is constantly on my mind now. guess will find out when srs lands.
My issue is the opposite, I have the 4RS now and SRS arriving in 6months but still want another fun car since 6 months seems so far away. Trying to figure out what to pickup that I could easily get out of and not lose $ on.
After having ridden in TXShaggy's car, even briefly, I will posit that NONE of them sound like the srs. The 4rs is close, of course, but OMG...that sound! It is immersive and melodic and ... possibly too much for some folks or after an extended period, but wow...just WOW!
I cannot WAIT to get more of that. The superlatives from the YT'ers ("best sounding car I've heard", "favorite car EVER", etc) are not just hype, from where I sit.
I did a 300 mile mountain loop today in my 720S. Let me just say that Mclaren got it f%cking right with the 720S track pack + revised accumulators/programming. Just amazing. I also swapped off with a friends 675LT Spider last weekend on more mountain twisties. Also fantastic. I know it's Mclaren blasphemy to say, but I prefer MY 720S, hands down, to the 675LT. But both of them quite honesty are just in a different league for the type of driving I like to do than the 4RS.
Importantly for me, spend several hours in the Mclaren, and you can't wait to get back in and do it again... With the 4RS, after an hour or so I'm ready to be done.
Just drove a 750s, it's like best of both world, got the LT goodness & all the nice amenities too. Also compared to 765LT I can drive 750s on more 'miata' road without having to worry about scratch on dips etc. If you are in bay area I'm talking about roads like page mill, pescadero etc.
I did a 300 mile mountain loop today in my 720S. Let me just say that Mclaren got it f%cking right with the 720S track pack + revised accumulators/programming. Just amazing. I also swapped off with a friends 675LT Spider last weekend on more mountain twisties. Also fantastic. I know it's Mclaren blasphemy to say, but I prefer MY 720S, hands down, to the 675LT. But both of them quite honesty are just in a different league for the type of driving I like to do than the 4RS.
Importantly for me, spend several hours in the Mclaren, and you can't wait to get back in and do it again... With the 4RS, after an hour or so I'm ready to be done.
agreed on it's another league. also echo-ing on the fatigue part, not just 4rs but any gt cars I felt pretty beaten up after say 200miles of hard drive(think rev never drop below 5k type of driving) On mac I blow by 300-500 miles easily
agreed on it's another league. also echo-ing on the fatigue part, not just 4rs but any gt cars I felt pretty beaten up after say 200miles of hard drive(think rev never drop below 5k type of driving) On mac I blow by 300-500 miles easily
Thats crazy to hear that a McLaren is more comfortable on a long hard drive than a Porsche. I felt my GT4 was really comfortable to be hones. I do plan on eventually getting a used 750S, or whatever equivalent is out by the time i have the money, so its definitely something really cool to look forward to.
Thats crazy to hear that a McLaren is more comfortable on a long hard drive than a Porsche. I felt my GT4 was really comfortable to be hones. I do plan on eventually getting a used 750S, or whatever equivalent is out by the time i have the money, so its definitely something really cool to look forward to.
same thing with ferrari, they're not tyring to beat you up coz most of customers are elderly gents ya know. but the edge of mac over ferrari is that it can just be pushed like gt car or harder, and much much lighter helps too. best of both world
Thats crazy to hear that a McLaren is more comfortable on a long hard drive than a Porsche. I felt my GT4 was really comfortable to be hones. I do plan on eventually getting a used 750S, or whatever equivalent is out by the time i have the money, so its definitely something really cool to look forward to.
also gt4 is less high-strung than gt3/rs cars for sure thus more comfortable. 750s really feels like end-game car for normal car guys(provided you don't mind the look & won't scream like na car)
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