TRZ06

OKAY...

I am not replying to you, as I don't like talking to brick walls. Carry on, but don't bother replying to my posts, they obviously are not for you.

Manifold

It's not that. Just strange to confidently and repeatedly opine about impressions of something one hasn't actually experienced. I encourage you to try to drive a 4RS.

Mr. Adair

Do you have any comments and impressions for me on the improved ride quality on the 4RS with DSC? Any quirks? When I added the DSC on my 7.2 RS I picked up high pitched frequency through the radio speakers. Not good.

Mr. Adair

What's really interesting about this topic is by nature electronic dampening is the way forward. The processing speed of the frequency and reading of the road surface is so far superior to passive it's not even close. Half off the IMSA sports car field is on suspension from Multimatic which is electronic. Spend some time on their website and who they support you will be shocked. That said, you don't see it on Indycar or F1 or other open wheel series. All I know is if we are not there already we have reached a point where replacing worn out struts on a GT car means going to the dealer to replace them and the control unit instead of automatically upgrading to something passive like we did in the old days.

Airbag997

F1 had it over 30 years ago and it was banned because it was too good. My HP4 had it, and it was terrible. I would argue for motorcycle racing passive is superior.

mrd_spy

Ferrari on the 296 if you spec them , Merc AMG GT R pro ,, all MR cars which are owned and warranty by Porsche. So yes :-) if you want to go faster they al fit Passive shocks.

Why do we even have a need on a £200k car to fit a DSC box ! that's not great is it. PASM engineers must love to hold back the cars. even the 992 GTS is way too firm imo.

I have 3 718 platforms the 4RS is the worse car on the road out the 3, I cannot fault the 4.0 GTS like 1 one person did, and the 718 Spyder does what it needs to do enough but it's too soft to really take on track even PASM on. I never press the PASM button on the GTS or Spyder, it's dire a experience and just makes you want to wee. My 991.2 GT3 was better but still not that good that car still launched me out my seat and you would hit your head on the roof. I am talking about driving them pretty fast, not going to cars and coffee events under the speed limit. Thats why we get different opinions. 80% people will never even see under steer and says even a base 718 is perfect. because it just speed limit transport.

people on here who say the rear of the 4RS is ok are deluded or wearing rose tinted specs because atm it's only about 2 vs 3000 who says nothing wrong with it !, my 718 Spyder and GTS don't have the problem on bumpy roads.

the BIG question is, has "Porsche" changed the PASM settings, we really need to try and find this out. Rennlist normally is very good having an insider or some one higher up the food chain to ask. because atm the EVO review from 2022 to now make no sense. We all know the SRS works on the road now ! As does the ST over the touring ! I really hate new cars when we know it's fully adjustable just not to us !

bit like every one put up with dire gen one EPS when on the GT models it sort of worked. I hated the 981 and 991.1 range of cars just due to the EPS on those cars, I could own one. well I did buy one but sold it within 2 months. 981 GTS or the 991 GTS would have been great cars if it were not for that EPS,, I have seen after 8 years some ones can remap these now !!

Taffy66

Porsche AG are always reading these forums and act accordingly. The first press 992GT3 cars were slated by jounos regarding its dire ride quality yet the newest cars seem better in this regard. Is this Porsche meddling behind the scene or simply familiarity playing games with our memory.
My 4RS is very sensitive to how bumpy tracks are in terms of feeling tied down. On the tracks I do it performs very well at Donnington and Anglesey. However at Oulton Park with its bumps and crests It feels under damped or oversprung. It copes well with going over corner kerbs and only seems to get confused over high speed bumps more especially when exiting them where the rebound cannot react fast enough to allow the rear springs to retain wheel contact and traction. This was made even worse on a couple of wet days I've done at Oulton in my RS. It really saps my confidence and why I'm now considering fitting a set of either Manthey or MCS coil overs. If I get a good deal I'm more likely to get the MR ones to retain both the warranty and front lift function.
All this is based on my real life experince of driving my 4RS on track. I don't use it to drive on public roads unless driving to tracks and home again. I still think its a magical car just even better with a good quality set of passive dampers. I felt the same for some other Porsches I've owned up to the 992T.
I'd have gone for Ohlims TTX if they had lift function but sadly they don't.

mrd_spy

Taffy , I have sent you a message.

Mr. Adair

The Williams FW14. That was electronically activated for ride height but the suspension was hydraulic and relatively traditional passive.

Mr. Adair

PASM has improved but like any mass produced vehicle cost is a factor even in a 200k car. It’s not sophisticated enough. Hence the DSC does help.

Airbag997

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Williams_FW15C The original FW15 was a new car designed in 1992 to incorporate the active suspension changes developed by Frank Dernie and implemented on the previous season's FW14B.

Manifold

Porsche GT cars are necessarily compromised cars, because they’re trying to be both good track cars and good road cars.

I use them as track cars, and I only really expect them to be good enough on the road that I can tolerate driving them to and from the track. But sometimes I find them fun enough on the road when the roads aren’t too bad and it’s safe to drive them fast. For road-only use, I think are better choices.

And for the track, they’re not perfect, but they’re good enough for non-competition use.

I tried DSC in the 981 GT4 and didn’t feel that it really improved the car overall - better in some ways, but felt somewhat artificial.

mrd_spy

We all want the MR car but as of late the prices are so high on the 4RS at £54k plus fitting It's just totally daft for what you get which now on the 4RS is very little. If £54k was brakes and seats and shocks/aero than all good, but the aero is limiting so really you are paying way way too much money for an MR 4RS

The SSR car looks very good value and a far better end result. for 1/2 the price.

Now we also have Silver rocket with an even cheaper price point again, add a set of MC FAL shocks to the Silver rocket aero you get a do it your self cheaper option.

cooler2442

Is the SSR aero + suspension half the price? I thought it was also 50k+?

mrd_spy

28.571,43EUR + TAX