GT4 RS Driving Impressions
07-15-2024, 01:52 PM
#1606
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Agreed, which I think is why the SRS doesn't really feel smaller to me when driving it. I don't care about it not being a 911, I just want a great car to drive and the SRS certainly fits the bill.
07-15-2024, 01:53 PM
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07-15-2024, 02:00 PM
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07-15-2024, 02:01 PM
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The exhaust sound in both is like on any other modern car with the eco BS... Shameful
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07-15-2024, 02:10 PM
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Some people tie up a car closely with their identities, so criticism of the car is perceived as a criticism of them personally. Some people may feel uneasy about having bought an expensive car, especially if they paid a substantial markup, and may wonder if they should have bought some other car, so they will want to hear only affirmations that they bought the right car and it's worth what they paid. Not many people are willing to say that they don't like a car as much as they hoped, maybe they bought the wrong car, maybe they paid too much, etc.
07-15-2024, 02:30 PM
#1611
Porsche have always said the 4RS is NOT their track car though.
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07-15-2024, 02:37 PM
#1612
I posted this before, this is straight from AP 3 years ago....
GT4rs was 100% slotted below the 992.1 GT3.
GT4rs was about having fun, not necessarily the fastest thing around the track.
GT4rs was not going to get all the trick features as a GT3 (front suspension and rear steering).
GT4rs more about the experience.
GT4rs is going to be loud due to intake.
GT4rs is not going to be great for longer, boring drives.
GT4rs was not going to be limited in numbers.
He says all of this. 3 years later, none of it has changed
Seems to me they achieved their goal.
GT4rs was 100% slotted below the 992.1 GT3.
GT4rs was about having fun, not necessarily the fastest thing around the track.
GT4rs was not going to get all the trick features as a GT3 (front suspension and rear steering).
GT4rs more about the experience.
GT4rs is going to be loud due to intake.
GT4rs is not going to be great for longer, boring drives.
GT4rs was not going to be limited in numbers.
He says all of this. 3 years later, none of it has changed
Seems to me they achieved their goal.
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07-15-2024, 02:43 PM
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Slotted below 992.1 GT3 doesn't mean 4RS isn't meant to be mainly a track car. And it is very fast around a track.
07-15-2024, 02:58 PM
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Based on my experience with the 4RS so far, I would expect the SRS to be a better road car (for me). Ride quality of the 4RS is fine, but I think the 4RS springs are too stiff for the road, with the result that the car floats around too much on a non-smooth road, and the dampers don't control that floating well enough. This is only an issue when pushing the car hard. I take Porsche at their word: 4RS is meant mainly for the track, SRS is meant mainly for the road. I'm wondering if maybe I should I trade my 4RS for a SRS, since we already have two 911 GT cars for the track ...
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07-15-2024, 03:10 PM
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I agree with you that the 4RS floats about on uneven roads because the dampers in Normal PASM can’t control the stiff springs . However in my experience and seemingly counterintuitive, when you switch the dampers to Sport PASM the floaty feeling goes away as the stiffer damper setting controls the springs better imo.
07-15-2024, 03:43 PM
#1616
A good alignment will further reduce the floatiness especially if it also includes lowering the car by 10mm. Never driven a modern Porsche where a good alignment transforms the way it drives as much as the 4RS
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07-15-2024, 04:16 PM
#1617
This is where having quality motorosport dampers really pays dividends. They just do so much better of a job of controlling the springs. I can dial up a couple of clicks and get a sharper turn-in and high speed stability in a long sweeper, but the ride on regular driving takes a hit and I bounce around more. But then you can dial them down a couple clicks and everything smooths out. The car is still stable high speed, but it's not as sharp and requires a little more steering angle.
07-15-2024, 04:19 PM
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There are a lot of things people say to convince themselves the 718 is better than the 911 . . . I suspect folks on the 911 sub-forum do not spend much, if any, time trying to justify why they got a 911 over 718?
Other common statements are the 911 is 'too surgical' or 'too refined.'
I have never owned a 911 but I have no doubt they are INCREDIBLE sport cars.
One thing I will say about the 911 variants is that they have evolved aesthetically much better than the 718. The 718 has become dated in its appearance . . . my impression is the 911 has also evolved much more in terms of performance.
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Other common statements are the 911 is 'too surgical' or 'too refined.'
I have never owned a 911 but I have no doubt they are INCREDIBLE sport cars.
One thing I will say about the 911 variants is that they have evolved aesthetically much better than the 718. The 718 has become dated in its appearance . . . my impression is the 911 has also evolved much more in terms of performance.
Avera
The new 911's look great too though, but I don't think that takes away from the 718 styling at all.
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07-15-2024, 04:26 PM
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I agree with you that the 4RS floats about on uneven roads because the dampers in Normal PASM can’t control the stiff springs . However in my experience and seemingly counterintuitive, when you switch the dampers to Sport PASM the floaty feeling goes away as the stiffer damper setting controls the springs better imo.
On uneven roads suspension compliance is your friend. You want the dampers to work for you and to work their stroke range and not be too restricted. You just need a better damper that controls the motions better than what Porsche puts on the car.
Anyone who comes to the Bay Area, hit me up and I'll give you a ride in my MCS equipped car. I have a setting that makes my GT4 feel like a GTS or 911 ST, then a click more and it feels like a GT4, then another click above that and it feels like a 4RS, and while all settings have different levels of compliance and comfort, all settings keep the car well controlled and buttoned down.
07-15-2024, 06:44 PM
#1620
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I posted this before, this is straight from AP 3 years ago....
GT4rs was 100% slotted below the 992.1 GT3.
GT4rs was about having fun, not necessarily the fastest thing around the track.
GT4rs was not going to get all the trick features as a GT3 (front suspension and rear steering).
GT4rs more about the experience.
GT4rs is going to be loud due to intake.
GT4rs is not going to be great for longer, boring drives.
GT4rs was not going to be limited in numbers.
He says all of this. 3 years later, none of it has changed
Seems to me they achieved their goal.
GT4rs was 100% slotted below the 992.1 GT3.
GT4rs was about having fun, not necessarily the fastest thing around the track.
GT4rs was not going to get all the trick features as a GT3 (front suspension and rear steering).
GT4rs more about the experience.
GT4rs is going to be loud due to intake.
GT4rs is not going to be great for longer, boring drives.
GT4rs was not going to be limited in numbers.
He says all of this. 3 years later, none of it has changed
Seems to me they achieved their goal.