Cobb Tuning Accessport for 718 (982) 4.0L NA Engines
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Cobb AP for 🇨🇦 GT4's
So, as you know the Cobb Tune for 718 GT4 isn't available for non US cars. Can't even buy the relevant AP in the UK.
However, these figures really intrigued me ... one of things I felt that was missing with the GT4 was that 'race to the redline' feeling. The power band is quite flat (not a terrible thing with the torque always there), but when I saw the above dyno charts (both Cobb and the OPs) - it was noticable more torque throughout and a more aggressive pull to the redline.
I reached out to Cobb Support and asked about whether it would come to the UK / World Market - he basically explained it wasn't on the cards right now but if I bought the right model of AP from the US, he'd get the maps tweaked to work on a UK spec car - they expected it to work / produce similar power to the above (other UK cars have already done it).
Got the AP, hooked the car up to a battery charger, went to install - didn't work - but I took a screenshot of what it showed (basically my cars ROM ID I presume) - sent it to them, they created the maps and sent them back.
Added the maps to the AP, went out again and this time it was smooth sailing.
Got it running on the stage 1 93 / 98 octane map.
Haven't had it dyno'd yet - will potentially do some tweaks, get a pro tune and a dyno - but it does seem to pull harder, especially at the top end of the powerband. Think there was more torque lower down too.
If the whp gains are genuine - it's a bargain for the price.
Makes me wonder if Porsche didn't just detune the GTS but also the 718 GT4 to avoid it competing too heavily with GT3 / GT4 RS.
That'd explain why both make silly power gains on this tune.
However, these figures really intrigued me ... one of things I felt that was missing with the GT4 was that 'race to the redline' feeling. The power band is quite flat (not a terrible thing with the torque always there), but when I saw the above dyno charts (both Cobb and the OPs) - it was noticable more torque throughout and a more aggressive pull to the redline.
I reached out to Cobb Support and asked about whether it would come to the UK / World Market - he basically explained it wasn't on the cards right now but if I bought the right model of AP from the US, he'd get the maps tweaked to work on a UK spec car - they expected it to work / produce similar power to the above (other UK cars have already done it).
Got the AP, hooked the car up to a battery charger, went to install - didn't work - but I took a screenshot of what it showed (basically my cars ROM ID I presume) - sent it to them, they created the maps and sent them back.
Added the maps to the AP, went out again and this time it was smooth sailing.
Got it running on the stage 1 93 / 98 octane map.
Haven't had it dyno'd yet - will potentially do some tweaks, get a pro tune and a dyno - but it does seem to pull harder, especially at the top end of the powerband. Think there was more torque lower down too.
If the whp gains are genuine - it's a bargain for the price.
Makes me wonder if Porsche didn't just detune the GTS but also the 718 GT4 to avoid it competing too heavily with GT3 / GT4 RS.
That'd explain why both make silly power gains on this tune.
I've had AP's for past cars (911's) & didn't have any issues with loading MAPS, however the 718's ECU is from different mfg than my previous Porsches
Also my car is manual, with Akra exhaust & OAP extras.
How would the car run with an OTS Cobb tune? Would I require ProTune, using primarily 93 or 94 oct pump gas in 🇨🇦
Thanks,
Bruce K
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Jared from Cobb tuning kindly reached out to me & said the CDN market & US market vehicles are compatible with the AP.
The Euro/UK spec cars have particulate filter monitoring on the ECU programming which makes them require a custom setup.
The Euro/UK spec cars have particulate filter monitoring on the ECU programming which makes them require a custom setup.
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Any new news on this front after APR posted their tune?
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I’m currently running my car with Soul Catted Headers and Soul OAPs with the factory rear section on the COBB OTS “Stage 1” calibration.
Throttle response it buttery smooth, power delivery feels very linear and I have not experienced any issues with the COBB AP in general.
The high resolution Data Logging works very well and doesn’t require me to strap my expensive laptop down in the passenger seat like my previous tuning suite required.
For those on the fence: just do it! A Cobb AP + Custom Calibration from your local tuner (or BGB) is still cheaper than other offerings of it’s caliber from other tuners.
Throttle response it buttery smooth, power delivery feels very linear and I have not experienced any issues with the COBB AP in general.
The high resolution Data Logging works very well and doesn’t require me to strap my expensive laptop down in the passenger seat like my previous tuning suite required.
For those on the fence: just do it! A Cobb AP + Custom Calibration from your local tuner (or BGB) is still cheaper than other offerings of it’s caliber from other tuners.
Hi ! DC021 I want to do Accessport to my BGTS 2022. I want BMC filters. My OAP are already particulate filter gutted. Do you have the custom calibration + Accessport or Accessport only? Thanks.
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Does Cobb offer a 30 days money back satisfaction guarantee on their tune like their competitors?
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It's not all about displacement; the 3.8L in the GT3 has a shorter stroke which gives it a higher compression ratio and higher redline. Also why it sounds higher pitched even at 8k rpm compared to a JCR GT4.
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Shorter stroke may affect the sound - it doesn't affect the compression ratio.
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Do cobb officially now offer a UK tune for the 4.0 engines ? .
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I'm not an engineer nor am i half as savvy as some of the folks on here; having said that, my notes are as follows:
1.) Stroke vs. bore increase sounds the same, don't care what anyone says. It's just an air pump. i used to believe stuff like that. I bet it's true on other cars but the ones on which i have worked that are flat six motors with the same intake and exhaust, do NOT unless you lower your RPM for the stroke increase. Then the engine would be quieter!
2.) If you do NOT change the dome design or PISTON to valve clearance after a stroke conversion then in fact you would be creating more compression.
3.) If you sit in a 718 Clubsport GT4 with a 911.1 / 981 based 3.8L engine vs. a 718 GT4RS with a 992 based 4.0L GT3 engine, at idle, they're almost exactly the same sound from the inside of the cockpit. Just rotating assemblies and exhaust and intake at idle and it sounds very very much the same. Two different motors from 2 different generations, different stroke, etc.
That's the extent of my knowledge though. There are folks on here way sharper than i am that can explain or deny.
1.) Stroke vs. bore increase sounds the same, don't care what anyone says. It's just an air pump. i used to believe stuff like that. I bet it's true on other cars but the ones on which i have worked that are flat six motors with the same intake and exhaust, do NOT unless you lower your RPM for the stroke increase. Then the engine would be quieter!
2.) If you do NOT change the dome design or PISTON to valve clearance after a stroke conversion then in fact you would be creating more compression.
3.) If you sit in a 718 Clubsport GT4 with a 911.1 / 981 based 3.8L engine vs. a 718 GT4RS with a 992 based 4.0L GT3 engine, at idle, they're almost exactly the same sound from the inside of the cockpit. Just rotating assemblies and exhaust and intake at idle and it sounds very very much the same. Two different motors from 2 different generations, different stroke, etc.
That's the extent of my knowledge though. There are folks on here way sharper than i am that can explain or deny.