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Old 03-23-2024, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by vcp13
Azzuro thetys with blue wheels and stickers disagrees
That’s you?
Old 03-23-2024, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 348SStb
That’s you?
I keep striking out with pts, so no
Old 03-23-2024, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by vcp13
I keep striking out with pts, so no
So that thetys combo is one that you would want then… got it. It’s nice.
Old 03-24-2024, 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by n4v4nod
I'm going to be in the HUGE minority on this, but for me personally, PTS has lost its desire. I have owned two PTS Spyders... 2012 987.2 in Riviera Blue (1 of 4 PTS in the NA), 2016 981 in Sport Classic Grey (1 of 2 globally and 1 of 22 PTS in the NA). Prior it was way cheaper and way more rare. If you got PTS it was like winning the Porsche lottery. Since, Porsche has expanded quantities dramatically and raised the price more and more... You pay more for something less rare than prior. Before you truly had something no one else did. Now it's not the case. Also hate the fact Porsche has replicated popular PTS colors within the inline colors... example, sport classic to chalk, voodoo to shark, Ruby Star to Ruby Star Neo and now the latest, Oak green to oak green Neo. Sure they aren't 100% the same but so damn close. Not a good feeling to pay the premium for something you thought was special to only be offered in abundance to everyone else. As mentioned I know I will be in the huge minority regarding this topic, but it's the reason I won't order another PTS. On the flip side I do enjoy seeing them though.
The problem is somewhere along the way people lost the point of PTS - instead of being a means to get a color that you really want, it became PTS for sake of PTS.

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Old 03-24-2024, 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by n4v4nod
I'm going to be in the HUGE minority on this, but for me personally, PTS has lost its desire. I have owned two PTS Spyders... 2012 987.2 in Riviera Blue (1 of 4 PTS in the NA), 2016 981 in Sport Classic Grey (1 of 2 globally and 1 of 22 PTS in the NA). Prior it was way cheaper and way more rare. If you got PTS it was like winning the Porsche lottery. Since, Porsche has expanded quantities dramatically and raised the price more and more... You pay more for something less rare than prior. Before you truly had something no one else did. Now it's not the case. Also hate the fact Porsche has replicated popular PTS colors within the inline colors... example, sport classic to chalk, voodoo to shark, Ruby Star to Ruby Star Neo and now the latest, Oak green to oak green Neo. Sure they aren't 100% the same but so damn close. Not a good feeling to pay the premium for something you thought was special to only be offered in abundance to everyone else. As mentioned I know I will be in the huge minority regarding this topic, but it's the reason I won't order another PTS. On the flip side I do enjoy seeing them though.
you forgot python green ti viper green

but the SRS has none of them except the milky washed out ruby and the hyper saturated shark

Thus is an obligation to pay the premium for a decent color , problem is that crazy WP doubling the cost, a Porsche tax over tax

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Old 03-24-2024, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by sunnyr
The problem is somewhere along the way people lost the point of PTS - instead of being a means to get a color that you really want, it became PTS for sake of PTS.
Fair point...

With my 987 Spyder, you didn't have a public palette to choose from, you had to submit actual paint samples to Porsche for achievability testing. I tried multiple times with all my selections rejected. After several attempts, I missed the window. Then by luck while searching inbound dealer inventory, I happen to find a Riviera Blue one that was unspoken for. Walters Porsche had a history of ordering PTS for dealer inventory. So it was pure luck. It wasn't a color I would have chosen on my own, but gave it a shot.

Now with my 981 Spyder, I managed to snag a PTS slot again, but specifically worked with someone in the exclusive department. I'm a sucker for the older solid grey colors. When the 911 Sport Classic debut, I fell in love with it. Keep in mind back then, no cars were colored solid grey (unlike today). It was a color that was previously banned and was just released.

Fast forward to the present... Porsche has Chalk and Arctic Grey (Both I have owned and love). Thus the reason I ordered Arctic again. So maybe I would be have a different POV if those colors were not around. Although I said otherwise earlier, I agree PTS should be about ordering a special color with meaning to the buyer rather than something due to rarity or others opinion on resale.

Well it is what it is, and the process is way easier now for those that choose to get one.

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Old 03-24-2024, 11:16 AM
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We have discussed whether to choose WP or not. Many people feel that it's not worth it, and that the exposed carbon actually diminishes its elegance.
However, the outcome is that now, photos of car owners picking up their cars on social media, almost all cars are with WP, haha.

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Old 03-24-2024, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by n4v4nod
Fair point...

With my 987 Spyder, you didn't have a public palette to choose from, you had to submit actual paint samples to Porsche for achievability testing. I tried multiple times with all my selections rejected. After several attempts, I missed the window. Then by luck while searching inbound dealer inventory, I happen to find a Riviera Blue one that was unspoken for. Walters Porsche had a history of ordering PTS for dealer inventory. So it was pure luck. It wasn't a color I would have chosen on my own, but gave it a shot.

Now with my 981 Spyder, I managed to snag a PTS slot again, but specifically worked with someone in the exclusive department. I'm a sucker for the older solid grey colors. When the 911 Sport Classic debut, I fell in love with it. Keep in mind back then, no cars were colored solid grey (unlike today). It was a color that was previously banned and was just released.

Fast forward to the present... Porsche has Chalk and Arctic Grey (Both I have owned and love). Thus the reason I ordered Arctic again. So maybe I would be have a different POV if those colors were not around. Although I said otherwise earlier, I agree PTS should be about ordering a special color with meaning to the buyer rather than something due to rarity or others opinion on resale.

Well it is what it is, and the process is way easier now for those that choose to get one.
Do you still have your 981 Spyder? Have any pics handy of it in Sport Classic Grey?
Old 03-24-2024, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Koizami
We have discussed whether to choose WP or not. Many people feel that it's not worth it, and that the exposed carbon actually diminishes its elegance.
However, the outcome is that now, when looking at pictures of cars on various social media , almost all cars are with WP, haha.
I greatly respect Porsche's marketing team; they've convinced people to happily pay $30k for what is essentially paint (WP+PTS).

As for my $30k, I have other plans: exhaust upgrade, ppf or maybe what this guy did:


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Old 03-24-2024, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Koizami
We have discussed whether to choose WP or not. Many people feel that it's not worth it, and that the exposed carbon actually diminishes its elegance.
However, the outcome is that now, photos of car owners picking up their cars on social media, almost all cars are with WP, haha.
Just means the non-WP will be that much rarer.
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Old 03-24-2024, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 348SStb
Do you still have your 981 Spyder? Have any pics handy of it in Sport Classic Grey?

Gone, but missed!
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Old 03-24-2024, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Koizami
We have discussed whether to choose WP or not. Many people feel that it's not worth it, and that the exposed carbon actually diminishes its elegance.
However, the outcome is that now, photos of car owners picking up their cars on social media, almost all cars are with WP, haha.
Most first initial SRS are VIP's... would not expect anything less...
Old 03-24-2024, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by n4v4nod

Gone, but missed!
Awesome. Did you go to 718 Spyder from there?
Old 03-24-2024, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by cooler2442
Waste of a PTS slot on any kind of white/gray/silver/chalk type color. Won’t get it back on resale and car will go close to a “normal” color Spyder RS price.
I guess I look at buying a car like this from a lot different perspective, I am buying it for me and to drive, not to sell to the next guy....
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Originally Posted by n4v4nod
I'm going to be in the HUGE minority on this, but for me personally, PTS has lost its desire. I have owned two PTS Spyders... 2012 987.2 in Riviera Blue (1 of 4 PTS in the NA), 2016 981 in Sport Classic Grey (1 of 2 globally and 1 of 22 PTS in the NA). Prior it was way cheaper and way more rare. If you got PTS it was like winning the Porsche lottery. Since, Porsche has expanded quantities dramatically and raised the price more and more... You pay more for something less rare than prior. Before you truly had something no one else did. Now it's not the case. Also hate the fact Porsche has replicated popular PTS colors within the inline colors... example, sport classic to chalk, voodoo to shark, Ruby Star to Ruby Star Neo and now the latest, Oak green to oak green Neo. Sure they aren't 100% the same but so damn close. Not a good feeling to pay the premium for something you thought was special to only be offered in abundance to everyone else. As mentioned I know I will be in the huge minority regarding this topic, but it's the reason I won't order another PTS. On the flip side I do enjoy seeing them though.
Porsche has definitely capitalized on the buyer who thinks they are creating something 'one-of-a-kind' only to find there are many colours that are so close, then add to that, you have to be told it is 'special'.

I am with you when it comes to PTS, I wouldn't order it.

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