cooler2442

Google and Rennlist threads, my numbers are accurate(give or take a 100 or so since I'm rounding based off memory). I owned a PTS 981 GT4 1 of only 41 made so I know 981 GT4 numbers, over 2400 were made in 1 year for America. Even if you just count GT4RS numbers Porsche pumped out 1300 of them in MY23 along with the 718 GT4/Spyder still being in production and dealing with 4RS supply chain issues.

You haven't been around long enough to know what Porsche's capacity is, now that its only the 4RS and SRS they can easily split 2500 units per year between them both which they will start prioritizing the SRS since it only has MY24/MY25 to go and it will end around 2000 units(could be as low as 1500 but I don't see it going lower than that unless demand dies down). Speedster is the true numbered unicorn convertible with a manual, SRS will not be.

ISPYA718

The basis of my argument wasn’t about future value of SRS. But rather an analogy of another Porsche convertible model, with the GT3 race engine. Of which there are now only 2 and 1 with PDK 1 with manual . The speedster received great reviews. Some 718 Spyder owners posited that speedster is heavier, not as visually appealing, and it’s not mid engined - the gist was, put it in Spyder and it would be the better car. So Porsche did. The speedster retained the manual so it’s still a unique drop top from that standpoint. But a NASP race engine in a mid engine layout - pretty special. But for me, as I stated before it a “quid pro quo”. I’m not prepared to give up the manual unless I’m physically unable to drive a manual. I have 2 other “sports cars”- an Audi S5 and a BMW 440iC with M package, both of which are DCT. Other people in my family drive too.

Coincidentally an interesting article in today’s Daily Mail on the death of the manual - even in England. I was a little surprised by that - but I guess I shouldn’t be. I’m harping on getting my kids to learn how to drive stick. One quote that stayed with me from article, “The lost art of the manual shift”. BUT PLEASE STAY ON TOPIC OF OF SRS AND NOT ANOTHER MANUAL VS PDK THREAD - there are copious amounts of those. So I post the link out of interest- not to provoke a debate. I think it’s settled - which one is better? The one you like.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...l_desktop_home

Bill_76

I don't care about production #992 Speedster; it will happen the same. Porsche is producing more GT cars, and it is OK.

I have no psychological problem with the 718 vs. 911. I have both, and both are great, but the Speedster looks awful; a forced roadster with a long tail cannot compete with the Spyder's design and dimensions.

Ferrarisimo

Few people have a better grasp on the 981 and 982 GT4, Spyder, and RS markets than @cooler2442 . I'd take his figures seriously. And remember that even though the 981 GT4 only ran for one model year, that production run was more than 18 months long.

And yes, Porsche will make considerably more 982 Spyder RS units than they did 991.2 Speedster units. It will be interesting to see if they limit the 992 Speedster, though.

Ferrarisimo

Off topic, but I thought the 440i came with a ZF8?

ISPYA718

Sorry I should have wrote autobox with paddles. You are correct sir.

“Paired with the boosted straight six is an eight-speed automatic transmission. It’s the same ZF 8HP50 transmission used a wide range of longitudinally mounted powertrains today, including many Chrysler, Audi, and Jaguar Land Rover products, just to name a few. It’s popular for very good reason, and the shift quality and refinement out of ZF’s engineering makes it the pinnacle of today’s torque converter-based automatic transmissions. BMW’s calibration is also particularly great, with amazingly fast shifts that could almost rival those of a dual clutch (DCT) design. There’s no gear hunting, and low-speed refinement trumps just about any DCT on the market.”

348SStb

What does that mean I “haven’t been around long enough to know?”

JAhmed

Jay Cordeiro

lol, I would take it as a compliment. As in, you come across as having so much vigour and enthusiasm you can't possibly be an old fart like me.

fxz

I do care the less if numbered or what
The SPEEDSTER is the ugly and heavy bath tube unicorn

CAMDman

Currently completing to buy a 2008 RS60 Spyder with 2 previous owners and 91k on the ODO for 31k. Both owners have lived within my area and have only gone to Porshe dealerships or private specialists for maintenance. Is this a good buy or should i keep looking for one with fewer miles? Any additional info/tips are greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Yc911Kid

Speedy is a fine looking car, and a 6mt to boot, only problem is its cost is 2X of a srs

coldfire

I noticed something interesting comparing the technical data for Spyder, GT4 RS, and Spyder RS. Steering ratios are different. The SRS has the quickest ratio, at least off-centre.

Spyder: 17.06:1 (centre position) to 13.15:1
GT4 RS: 16.9:1 (centre position) to 12.25:1
Spyder RS: 17.0:1 (centre position) to 11.3:1

348SStb

Now we’re talking!

n4v4nod

It has been noted on many reviews. I remember Matt Farah mentioning it in his.... but it's good to see the actual numbers of the difference. Thanks for posting.