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I do not think Porsche will have much choice OTHER than to replace the motors. The idea of a complete teardown at a specified location, port of dealer MAY be feasible but the optics are not too good. Swapping out motors is a big enough job with the numbers involved. The natives are restless on this matter and I do not blame them.
Having a paid for car or making payments and insurance while not being able to drive your machine until early / mid summer is not real palatable and a car with a locally rebuilt motor in any event for some people will always have a asterisk attached to it.
That is a good call out, UncleDude. The NHTSA site will pertain to USA cars since that is all NHTSA has regulation in...
My sequential number is in the range, but the VIN is slightly different. I don't doubt that mine is affected though, as the dealer essentially confirmed it.
My sequential number is in the range, but the VIN is slightly different. I don't doubt that mine is affected though, as the dealer essentially confirmed it.
If I recall, I think one of the VIN digits denotes the "market" it goes to. So there will be some variants in that digit.
I'd start with the build range first, then do from there.
I'm a little pi$%ed on at SA and Dealer ATM. My build date was 12/7/2020 and clearly way before the range of this recall... but they told me last week it was a part of this recall...
That is a good call out, UncleDude. The NHTSA site will pertain to USA cars since that is all NHTSA has regulation in...
Originally Posted by UncleDude
My sequential number is in the range, but the VIN is slightly different. I don't doubt that mine is affected though, as the dealer essentially confirmed it.
US and Canada vehicles are recorded in the same VIN sequence. The last 5 VIN digits are (somewhat) sequential, sometimes they skip a few and fill it later. Don't know why.
The 2 VIN digits after A are a sequential checksum. A8X...A81...A83...for example.
The ranges listed in the NHTSA document include almost 300 cars, but only 190 are affected. So even if the VIN is in the range only Porsche can tell you if your car actually needs fixing.
US and Canada vehicles are recorded in the same VIN sequence. The last 5 VIN digits are (somewhat) sequential, sometimes they skip a few and fill it later. Don't know why.
The 2 VIN digits after A are a sequential checksum. A8X...A81...A83...for example.
The ranges listed in the NHTSA document include almost 300 cars, but only 190 are affected. So even if the VIN is in the range only Porsche can tell you if your car actually needs fixing.
Interesting! I didn't do the math but saw there's a checkbox on the NHTSA form to indicate if the VINs are not sequential, and it's not checked. Good to know.
Ugh. Well now it is really real and they won't even be starting remediation until May 23rd. As has been stated before, I am totally NOT comfortable with an engine teardown and repair at the dealership. I really think a full engine replacement is the only "acceptable" path forward for cars that have left the factor.
US and Canada vehicles are recorded in the same VIN sequence. The last 5 VIN digits are (somewhat) sequential, sometimes they skip a few and fill it later. Don't know why.
The 2 VIN digits after A are a sequential checksum. A8X...A81...A83...for example.
The ranges listed in the NHTSA document include almost 300 cars, but only 190 are affected. So even if the VIN is in the range only Porsche can tell you if your car actually needs fixing.
Don't forget to note, the notification states "Potential Number of Units Affected: 190"
Using the word "potential" gives Porsche the ability to go higher or lower if needed...
US and Canada vehicles are recorded in the same VIN sequence. The last 5 VIN digits are (somewhat) sequential, sometimes they skip a few and fill it later. Don't know why.
The 2 VIN digits after A are a sequential checksum. A8X...A81...A83...for example.
The ranges listed in the NHTSA document include almost 300 cars, but only 190 are affected. So even if the VIN is in the range only Porsche can tell you if your car actually needs fixing.
I see, my VIN is in the range sequentially and I think there were 90 something vehicles affected in Canada which somewhat jives with the math.
Don't forget to note, the notification states "Potential Number of Units Affected: 190"
Using the word "potential" gives Porsche the ability to go higher or lower if needed...
Who knows what they really mean but at face value "potential" really means the maximum (the capacity it could develop into). I do think auto makers are very careful with this stuff (especially when safety, read liability, is concerned) and they don't want to have to go back to the NHTSA with conflicting information in the future as it diminishes their credibility and then opens them up to a whole other mess. My guess is this is the conservative number.
I bet Sarah Shiver, being the point person listed for PCNA, has some frustrating days ahead.
I find it curious that the stated resolution for avoiding the problem in production from March 5th onward was, "by means of changeover to the predecessor part."
That doesn't sound like a problem with discreet production lot(s).
Perhaps the same part from a different plant? Hoeckle have two facilities it seems. One Austrian and one Czeck.
Here's an image from their website showing a diameter and roundness QC check.
Date Build Range: 1/26/2021 - 3/4/2021 (GT4 only, other vehicles might be different)
Speculation is over. You can look at the first PDF document to see if your VIN is affected.
As noted in the recall acknowledgment:
Remedy:
Porsche will notify owners, and dealers will replace the connecting rods or, as necessary, the engine, free of charge. The recall is expected to begin May 23, 2021. Owners may contact Porsche customer service at 1-800-767-7243. Porsche's number for this recall is AMA4.
So you either get new rods or a new engine. It does not say "how" that is determined... I'm hooping owners can push for one or the other...
On a really positive note (for me at least)... and I still need to confirm this with my SA... my build date is 12/7/2020 so it is NOT affected by the connecting rod issue... just the suspension issue... crazy...
Thank you for posting the facts. Now this thread is being helpful...
03-30-2021 | 11:39 AM
