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I was told basically the same thing. My ED (June 18) is def cancelled and this is the tracking sheet my SA sent me...seems I am pushed back about 2 months. Also seems that mine is a 3 week build time. I don't think I did anything crazy with the options, so not sure why it would take longer than any other car on the same line??
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By 'any other car on the same line' are you referring to other GT4's?
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Correct. Why would some take 1 week and others take 3 weeks? My assumption is that they don't start the build until they have all the parts queued up as it would seem inefficient to have a car sitting half built waiting on a specific part to arrive.
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I would be surprised that they would start any car while they were still waiting for 'standard' option parts, the only time I thought that there would be an increase in build time was if there were certain exclusive options that were installed after build.
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Your list above doesn't raise a single flag to me all of the options I see there are what I believe are normally installed on the regular production line.
Not sure why there would be any significant difference in build time over a similarly optioned car.
Not sure why there would be any significant difference in build time over a similarly optioned car.
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I asked if PEM would add time to the build/assembly and he indicated it doesn't (i.e. it goes from one area to another to get PEM installed after, adding to the timeline); it normally takes a day to assemble the car. Typically CXX options are the ones that add time and anything really bespoke/custom (I'm thinking the custom side sills as an example). that said, they typically do add this extra time to the build sheet in those situations. My best guess from what I've learned so far is that while V260 says it's in the body shop, I don't think it's physically in the construction phase. I think parts are being gathered for my build including PEM which may take a little longer than if it was a standard spec. Once everything is in, then the real process begins and the actual body goes to paint, then assembly. At least that's what makes the most sense in my head as to why there are different timelines. We'd have to get to the individual options selected for those of us with longer or shorter build times to maybe narrow down which options may cause the biggest delay in the build due to sourcing. I'm sure it's all up in the air with how integrated the auto manufacturing sector is with JIT deliveries and COVID related delays in restart.
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This would be extremely surprising that they bolt in a set of black seat belts then pull the back out to replace with a coloured set, install a standard gauge cluster then pull it back out to install a yellow one, bolt on wheels then take them off, it is simply not required, none of this sounds like German efficiency!
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@Surge74 Looks like you may be right and I am mistaken!
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Originally Posted by Westcoast
No link, no looky... The GT3 may be different
This would be extremely surprising that they bolt in a set of black seat belts then pull the back out to replace with a coloured set, install a standard gauge cluster then pull it back out to install a yellow one, bolt on wheels then take them off, it is simply not required, none of this sounds like German efficiency!
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This would be extremely surprising that they bolt in a set of black seat belts then pull the back out to replace with a coloured set, install a standard gauge cluster then pull it back out to install a yellow one, bolt on wheels then take them off, it is simply not required, none of this sounds like German efficiency!
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No link, no looky... The GT3 may be different
This would be extremely surprising that they bolt in a set of black seat belts then pull the back out to replace with a coloured set, install a standard gauge cluster then pull it back out to install a yellow one, bolt on wheels then take them off, it is simply not required, none of this sounds like German efficiency!
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This would be extremely surprising that they bolt in a set of black seat belts then pull the back out to replace with a coloured set, install a standard gauge cluster then pull it back out to install a yellow one, bolt on wheels then take them off, it is simply not required, none of this sounds like German efficiency!
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What are the odds I could keep my stock non-PEM parts that they take off if I decide I want to revert back to the standard option?
Based on Schmee's video, the following parts are what he identifies as installed after assembly: custom door sills, sport chrono clock in different colour, key side blades, extended leather interior. The white tachometer and gauges look to be installed at the factory. Seems like some PEM options are installed on the assembly line while others are after completion; probably dependent on how difficult and time consuming it is to swap something out. The stuff that was swapped out in the video were done within a minute or two, so anything more involved will probably be done on the assembly line. I'd assume stuff like painted headlight cleaning system, sport chrono clock, any extended leather stuff including steering column, visors, etc..and any optional sills are done after assembly. Stuff like the coloured gauges, black door handles (maybe?) painted emblems and seat belts (maybe?) and wheels would still be done on the line and could be a reason why some have a longer build timeline as parts need to arrive before assembly vs. after. All speculation of course!
I wonder if the assembly is in Osnabruck and then it goes to Zuffenhausen for any non-assembly line PEM options before being sent back to Osnabruck along with its siblings before being sent to Emden for shipping. All depends on what Osnabruck is equipped to do.
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I believe this is the video being referenced: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4-cSI_MzQc
What are the odds I could keep my stock non-PEM parts that they take off if I decide I want to revert back to the standard option?
Based on Schmee's video, the following parts are what he identifies as installed after assembly: custom door sills, sport chrono clock in different colour, key side blades, extended leather interior. The white tachometer and gauges look to be installed at the factory. Seems like some PEM options are installed on the assembly line while others are after completion; probably dependent on how difficult and time consuming it is to swap something out. The stuff that was swapped out in the video were done within a minute or two, so anything more involved will probably be done on the assembly line. I'd assume stuff like painted headlight cleaning system, sport chrono clock, any extended leather stuff including steering column, visors, etc..and any optional sills are done after assembly. Stuff like the coloured gauges, black door handles (maybe?) painted emblems and seat belts (maybe?) and wheels would still be done on the line and could be a reason why some have a longer build timeline as parts need to arrive before assembly vs. after. All speculation of course!
I wonder if the assembly is in Osnabruck and then it goes to Zuffenhausen for any non-assembly line PEM options before being sent back to Osnabruck along with its siblings before being sent to Emden for shipping. All depends on what Osnabruck is equipped to do.
What are the odds I could keep my stock non-PEM parts that they take off if I decide I want to revert back to the standard option?
Based on Schmee's video, the following parts are what he identifies as installed after assembly: custom door sills, sport chrono clock in different colour, key side blades, extended leather interior. The white tachometer and gauges look to be installed at the factory. Seems like some PEM options are installed on the assembly line while others are after completion; probably dependent on how difficult and time consuming it is to swap something out. The stuff that was swapped out in the video were done within a minute or two, so anything more involved will probably be done on the assembly line. I'd assume stuff like painted headlight cleaning system, sport chrono clock, any extended leather stuff including steering column, visors, etc..and any optional sills are done after assembly. Stuff like the coloured gauges, black door handles (maybe?) painted emblems and seat belts (maybe?) and wheels would still be done on the line and could be a reason why some have a longer build timeline as parts need to arrive before assembly vs. after. All speculation of course!
I wonder if the assembly is in Osnabruck and then it goes to Zuffenhausen for any non-assembly line PEM options before being sent back to Osnabruck along with its siblings before being sent to Emden for shipping. All depends on what Osnabruck is equipped to do.
So I count 7 Porsche Exclusive Manufaktur options on my Spyder... dang this is going to take forever!