Another exhaust sound data point
#766
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"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" as they say. It's extremely irritating to see it happen but inevitable as we're the company that they and many other small operations look up to. They copied our rolled tips and silenced tips like for like but the system is quite different in reality. I see Dundon has had their 991 header system copied in the far east, it sucks to see!
In any case, no silencers and no cylinder mixing in the 'valves closed' route and silencers in the 'valves open' position certainly makes for an 'interesting' design feature.
Companies like these guys tend to come from no where claiming all sorts of wonderful things, make a ton of noise online before quickly going quiet due to selling minimal product and eventually disappear.
I'd give them 6 months or so before the latter occurs.
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In any case, no silencers and no cylinder mixing in the 'valves closed' route and silencers in the 'valves open' position certainly makes for an 'interesting' design feature.
Companies like these guys tend to come from no where claiming all sorts of wonderful things, make a ton of noise online before quickly going quiet due to selling minimal product and eventually disappear.
I'd give them 6 months or so before the latter occurs.
JC
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blackholescion (10-20-2020)
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Ouch. Sounds like you dont like Ben Crowles and i am sensing some bashing here. As I clearly illustrated above clearly its a completely different design. Fabspeed and Tubi have been making x pipes for the GT4 also are they copying as well? Likely not as they have a completely different approach to their exhaust routing just like BC. Im not trying to say anyone is better as I have no seat time with any of these systems. And I am likely to do the dundon setup at some point so I have no skin im the muffler game. But competition is good IMO. Dont see the need to imply the other small businesees need to disappear because they are “copying” you. If you had purchased their product and run it on your car, and it sucked, I would welcome to hear your opinion about it. Wasnt expecting a flat out dismemberment of this guy’s business. If there is something we dont know please share
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Ouch. Sounds like you dont like Ben Crowles and i am sensing some bashing here. As I clearly illustrated above clearly its a completely different design. Fabspeed and Tubi have been making x pipes for the GT4 also are they copying as well? Likely not as they have a completely different approach to their exhaust routing just like BC. Im not trying to say anyone is better as I have no seat time with any of these systems. And I am likely to do the dundon setup at some point so I have no skin im the muffler game. But competition is good IMO. Dont see the need to imply the other small businesees need to disappear because they are “copying” you. If you had purchased their product and run it on your car, and it sucked, I would welcome to hear your opinion about it. Wasnt expecting a flat out dismemberment of this guy’s business. If there is something we dont know please share
Yes unfortunately there's lots of underlying noise in the background which would give further context to the tone of my response. We tend to just do our thing and avoid mentioning or concerning ourselves with any other company. We simply work hard to deliver the best products for our customers and keep our heads down whilst attempting to avoid any such drama despite the aforementioned background noise.
As I always say, choice is a wonderful thing.
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Given the context of the posts this morning - It appears to me BC might be taking a shot at JCR in their description of the exhaust and why Ti isn’t good.
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JCR-Porsche (10-20-2020)
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I openly said "the system is quite different in reality" in the post above - Only the mounting system, the rolled and silenced tips have been copied. I haven't ever claimed our system has been copied by anyone.
Yes unfortunately there's lots of underlying noise in the background which would give further context to the tone of my response. We tend to just do our thing and avoid mentioning or concerning ourselves with any other company. We simply work hard to deliver the best products for our customers and keep our heads down whilst attempting to avoid any such drama despite the aforementioned background noise.
As I always say, choice is a wonderful thing.
JC
Yes unfortunately there's lots of underlying noise in the background which would give further context to the tone of my response. We tend to just do our thing and avoid mentioning or concerning ourselves with any other company. We simply work hard to deliver the best products for our customers and keep our heads down whilst attempting to avoid any such drama despite the aforementioned background noise.
As I always say, choice is a wonderful thing.
JC
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Dundon and Kline dont use titanium for exhausts either. Steel or inconel. It comes down to metallurgic properties. I believe JCR uses inconel for the high temp, high abuse areas. I dont think the titanium rear section gets as hot as the headers and they have been racing with it like hooligans and nothing seems to have broken. Titanium is expensive as ***** tho
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Dundon and Kline dont use titanium for exhausts either. Steel or inconel. It comes down to metallurgic properties. I believe JCR uses inconel for the high temp, high abuse areas. I dont think the titanium rear section gets as hot as the headers and they have been racing with it like hooligans and nothing seems to have broken. Titanium is expensive as ***** tho
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A couple of good clips there, I would hazard to guess that both are still running OEM OAP's given the volume and bark...
Watching the JCR definitely sounds like my system before I added the Akra link-pipes, great sound with a little less volume.
Watching the JCR definitely sounds like my system before I added the Akra link-pipes, great sound with a little less volume.
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The BC Fabs power package sounds bananas! Full system with street headers with 200 cell cats and inconel rear pipe. Cant wait to hear it in person
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