TDT

The RS Clubsport has additional flics on the front end, and does have specific front splitter, and then Rear wing is the Clubsport Rear Wing… as we’ve seen before.

I guess you could say the point would be to add further lightness… but honestly… just go buy and 4RS Clubsport rather than start messing around with body panes on a street 4RS.
You’ll just ruin it IMO.

thuggo

LOL if it was only that easy to buy an RS CS.

TDT

Probably easier than getting a street RS.

You talk direct to Porsche Motorsport…
- No overs.
- No ADM.
- No Games,
- No fooling around buying other cars you don’t actually want.
- No brown paper bags for OPC DP.

Either you get a car or not.

That said… they won’t sell it to you just for trackdays lol. You’ll need to be committing to a race series…. so aside from that ‘little’ caveat. Haha 😂

thuggo

Ya its not even remotely easier than buying a Street car. You said it, to even qualify you have to commit to a race series. And even then from what i've been told they are making 40-60 of them a year...its a stupid small number. And buying one one on the side market...they start at 315k right now.....

Greybadger

Let’s hope Manthey’s upgrades are similar then

TDT

Yep limited at least for the first year. But at least you know the odds. No BS.

I wouldn’t be hacking up a street 4RS though.
In most extreme cases you might want dampers and brake pads/rotors for committed track use.
For most, just brake pads.

TDT

I can’t see Manthey making huge body panel changes for the street 4RS…. If it’s the street package you’re referring too.

From the pics I’ve seen… front aero flics… aero discs for rear wheels and maybe something on the rear wing to allow greater AOA and maybe a gurney. Maybe they do a bigger wing with integrated gurney.
Then it’s coilover package, pads, lines and illuminated door sill plates.
The Clubsport wing is not TüV approved.. some of those edge radii are definitely NOT pedestrian friendly.. so I can’t see them using the race car part… else Porsche would have done that already instead of developing the new one for the 4RS. Also running that CS wing effectively means putting a lot of rake into the car to get proper balance. You can fit it… people have, but the balance is noticeably shifted rearward.

blackholescion

So basically the same as a 4RS with ADM?

Mr. Adair

Side note, dealers that have supported a Clubsport team generally have cars available. Isringhausen usually have 2 for sale. Sometimes with only delivery miles..

Toothengineer

Just as hard and ADM as well, unless you have race team hook ups. PCNA in not selling to private consumers just race teams.

Whoopsy

First batch of ClubSports are of course going to race teams first, for them to get ready to race for the season.

But there are always exceptions, team plans may not work out and the cars became available again for purchase.

Some teams ordered extras as spares but figured they don't need that many.

PMNA don't order exact number of cars, there will be leftovers on top of the 'returns'.

It really isn't that hard to buy one. Some times it just takes time and patience and perhaps keep trying.

Being nice and convincing also helps. PMNA, as an extension of PCNA, don't play games like 3rd party dealers do.

Right now everyone is preparing for the ROAR and the 24hrs of Daytona. After that there might be cars available for purchase.

TDT

There you go… , if you’re serious about tracking a 4RS… options are available.

BGB Motorsports

This is probably one of the hardest Porsche Motorsport products to purchase right now. Last year we committed to an entire season of IMSA and got one of the first cars. A few weeks later Tom decided to also run SRO, full season commmitment for himself and me to drive - couldn't get a car. We tried everything. I even started cold calling teams in ASIA that couldn't run their cars because the season was on hold. For 2022 there were 25 cars brought in.

Supposedly for 2023 it's almost half that. Tom has bought one 981 Clubsport, two 718 Clubsports, two 992 Cup cars, sold both to buy another 992 Cup car, bought a GT4RS in 2022 and somehow by the grace of God (most likely because they couldn't give him an R) he got a new car for 2023. Porsche Motorsport likes to tell people they have a list 100 long of people and they probably do. Even with that purchase history it was not guaranteed that he would get a new car. We had to push and push and push.

You have the entire world lined up to buy the race and street version; i have no idea how priority works but i think that Porsche has to allocate to Porsche Motorsport. You have a window closing for a race car and a street car - how do you decide which one to make? Both are about to be discontinued - the Clubsport race car has been unique because i don't think we have ever had a race car and a street car so closely related. Body panels and some aero. Other than that, what you drive is what you race. Pretty cool.

I'll sell you something that's on the race cars only and not on the road car - I bet you wouldn't like driving the thing though with the 53mm restrictor that chokes it down 75rwhp! Who wants one?! It's like the inverse of buying an IPD plenum! PHOTO SHOWN BEFORE WE GOT FURTHER CASTRATED FROM 57mm to 53mm.

TDT

Ewww yuk! Lol - Basically back to ‘normal’ Clubsport level.

Guess that’s what BoP does when people can’t keep it in their pants during testing! Lol.

BGB Motorsports

Exactly. We have better torque down low, better gearing but power is back to what the 2nd gen car was making. At Daytona last month you could pull into the draft of a 2nd Gen 718 Clubsport but then it began to leave me. He makes less downforce, less drag and 400rwhp; the RS does the opposite. The guy literally had to lift off to let me by. If i pushed the gas pedal any harder it would have broken.