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Old 10-02-2022, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TDT
For context he has a 992 GT3 arriving in the new year.
Yup...he struggled with deciding on wing/no wing, but "as a professional", sad that he couldn't/wouldn’t hypothesize about use case, nor possibilities. Especially if the point of the vid is to determine if its road worthy.
Old 10-02-2022, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by colnagoG60
Summary, "I don't like 'the car', it's not for me, 'because its too firm for B-roads'...it will never be the 911".

Not that it was originally intended, but I wish someone could invent a way to make suspension more compliant.

https://youtu.be/HWQSHSXc8H8
This review is so bitter… he’s just hatin’.
Old 10-02-2022, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TDT
For context he has a 992 GT3 arriving in the new year.

Yeah, and that car is not firm at all on B roads :-)
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Old 10-02-2022, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by colnagoG60
Summary, "I don't like 'the car', it's not for me, 'because its too firm for B-roads'...it will never be the 911".
To be fair, his opinion was not just based on 911 snobbery because he ended up saying he’d prefer a GT4 (and he is a former Cayman owner).

I think it’s just a case of poor road surface quality and someone who has no interest in track driving.
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Old 10-02-2022, 05:38 PM
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Fixed...

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"I don't like 'the car, t's not for me, because it is absolute sh!te for Starbucks runs... It will never be a Vauxhall Corsa!"

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Old 10-02-2022, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by colnagoG60
Summary, "I don't like 'the car', it's not for me, 'because its too firm for B-roads'...it will never be the 911".

Not that it was originally intended, but I wish someone could invent a way to make suspension more compliant.

https://youtu.be/HWQSHSXc8H8
Of all the car youtubers I think he is the best, and agree with his review. For what he is doing and who he is, a GT3 is a better choice. Which is wafting, carrying equipment, and going to cars and coffee with some fast squirts down country roads. He will never take it to a track.

I think there is a big difference between a car youtuber and a car reviewer. The youtubers are great for showing an enthusiasts view of things, and all enthusiasts have different use cases. Reviewers can be more objective and asses it for what it is, and in this instance it's a Porsche RS product.

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Old 10-02-2022, 07:36 PM
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Do people really base their decision to purchase a car based upon some youtuber reviews? I know I don't.
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Old 10-02-2022, 09:26 PM
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I'm just one of the haters that these "influencers" get their cars, drive it around for a bit then palm it off while some of us miss out entirely.

Stick to Harris, Catchpole and Sutcliffe.

Everybody else's opinions don't matter.
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Old 10-02-2022, 10:35 PM
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I’m hoping this car is the loudest, most hardcore, non “daily driver” I’ve ever owned with tons of personality. That’s exactly what I signed up for. Just waiting on delivery…
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Old 10-02-2022, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by colnagoG60
My concerns aren't about lap times...I couldn't care less Definitely not saying they aren't good cars, just not the point of my posts. Like some others, I just feel the car gets unsettled, at speed, over road imperfections. "My car" was "jumpy/bouncy/jostley (<sp?)", to a point where I was getting lifted off the seat, or bumps caused me to saw at the wheel. I felt l like I had to wait too long for the car to settle, because the dampers seem like they are doing the opposite of what they should, before I can enter any steering inputs. As it pertains to your focus, that would affect my lap times. For me, I just didn't feel comfortable pushing the car, in any situation. So I "changed" all that, understanding that a car cannot be configured to handle all conditions, equally well. Just wished they'd make it handle bumps better, the 3rd time around.

As far as how Porsche releases something from the factory, I am of the strong opinion that decisions were/are made to keep the car safe, as it is being marketed as an entry level track car, in an effort to mitigate accidents/law suits (Audi TT, Toyota MR2, Suzuki Swift, et al), or making "another" car labeled "Widow maker". Fair enough...the business must survive above all else.

Such an ON POINT post!! I completely agree and those who have followed my transformation on my GT4 know I went down that rabbit hole to get the car to behave as it should have from the factory.

I am very curious how an MR equipped GT4 or something like my built car (MSC 2-way remote dampers, PLUS many other suspension items) would compare to a stock GT3 in terms of handling feel, chassis composure, and quality of damping

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Old 10-02-2022, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Do people really base their decision to purchase a car based upon some youtuber reviews? I know I don't.
Those that have FU money to make a bad choice and be able to correct it, probably not. For those of us where a 6 figure car is something you have to work hard for, most definitely. Those "special" cars in normal times dealers will not let you test drive, and in the current times, you have to completely go in blind just to even get an allocation, let alone drive one.

I feel most Youtube reviews are more critical than the magazines who have to watch what they say and censor themselves.
Old 10-02-2022, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TRZ06
Those that have FU money to make a bad choice and be able to correct it, probably not. For those of us where a 6 figure car is something you have to work hard for, most definitely. Those "special" cars in normal times dealers will not let you test drive, and in the current times, you have to completely go in blind just to even get an allocation, let alone drive one.

I feel most Youtube reviews are more critical than the magazines who have to watch what they say and censor themselves.

I think it's the other way around or you are talking a case of the blind leading the bind....99.9% of these "influencers"/Youtubers "expert" don't know anything about cars and will hype them or turn them down based if they got an allocation, personal choices, etc.
They may also say something good or bad depending of the views, so not too far from what a magazine may do for advertising revenues.
I rather take my chances with the better journalists, we all know who they are and just skip the fluff stuff from these guys...good for entertainment, not so good to make a buying decision.
As for the STG video...he just used the wrong tool for the wrong job. Nothing is perfect as you already know from your car.
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Old 10-02-2022, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Do people really base their decision to purchase a car based upon some youtuber reviews? I know I don't.
Many actually. Although personally I feel some are better than others at conveying not only what a car is/isn't doing, but "why". I'll stick with viewing them, especially when they've driven multiple generations, of the same car, as well as various modified versions.
Old 10-03-2022, 06:05 AM
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For me https://www.youtube.com/c/JayEmmonCars is the one to go. After having driven now dozens of P-Cars and a little collection in the garage i would say he comes the closest to a somewhat objective review that i can rely on somewhat. Harris i used to like but not anymore and the others are more or less advertisers.

Edit: Also useful: https://www.youtube.com/c/Harrysgarage
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Old 10-03-2022, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by jmartpr
As for the STG video...he just used the wrong tool for the wrong job. Nothing is perfect as you already know from your car.
Watched that one last night. I do watch him somewhat regularly, I like the entertainment value and travel footage.

His video title and intro was strange considering later in the video he said a) what the likely purpose of a 4RS is b) what his purpose is and then proceeded to use the car as a "daily" on lousy roads. Self fulfilling prophecy.

It's all about what lens you look through when forming opinion or expectation about something. Off the bat he knew it wasn't going to be his type of car and it wasn't. I would say, few would probably enjoy it on the roads he drove.

Almost click bait type video title.

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