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Old 05-24-2022, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by aarodynamics
Do we know yet if the changes to the 4RS' suspension do anything to decrease bump steer and specifically to mitigate rear toe deviation on compression/rebound?

I'm aware of new toe links and stiffer springs/dampers. The stiffer springs/dampers should help as long as there's a good amount of added compression in the front, rebound in the back, increased spring rate overall, caster adjustability to keep the track at original levels during alignment, and minimized deflection at the toe links. With that said, it seems like the toe deviation problem on the 982 all originates from the linearity (or lack thereof) of its toe response curve to suspension travel.
I don't believe other than the springs there was any change on the suspension for the rear....
Old 05-24-2022, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by thuggo
I don't believe other than the springs there was any change on the suspension for the rear....
Porsche marketing materials said they increased front and rear negative camber on the GT4 RS relative to the GT4, and showed different (longer) toe links on the RS relative to the standard GT4. Not sure if that change made any improvement to bump steer characteristics too.
Old 05-24-2022, 07:48 PM
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Does anyone know if the GT4 RS bucket seats can be configured with black inserts? The only option I see are Leather w/Artic grey or blue RaceTex centers.
Old 05-24-2022, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by wizee
Porsche marketing materials said they increased front and rear negative camber on the GT4 RS relative to the GT4, and showed different (longer) toe links on the RS relative to the standard GT4. Not sure if that change made any improvement to bump steer characteristics too.
Actually it says they increased rear camber by .25 deg over the GT4. They don't say anything about the front camber. At least in accordance with the print info I've seen. That is in addition to the increased track widths front and rear.
Old 05-24-2022, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by skafia
Does anyone know if the GT4 RS bucket seats can be configured with black inserts? The only option I see are Leather w/Artic grey or blue RaceTex centers.
Artic Silver or Blue as far as I can tell, and this: https://www.suncoastparts.com/product/SKUALCGT.html
Old 05-24-2022, 09:02 PM
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Artic Silver or Blue as far as I can tell, and this: https://www.suncoastparts.com/product/SKUALCGT.html
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Old 05-24-2022, 11:26 PM
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P1 Designs can make you whatever you want for a fraction of that, and Kim is great to work with.
Old 05-25-2022, 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ExMB
Actually it says they increased rear camber by .25 deg over the GT4. They don't say anything about the front camber. At least in accordance with the print info I've seen. That is in addition to the increased track widths front and rear.
And are the increased track widths likely just from them adding camber via the lower control arm?
Old 05-25-2022, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by skafia
Does anyone know if the GT4 RS bucket seats can be configured with black inserts? The only option I see are Leather w/Artic grey or blue RaceTex centers.

If you spec deviated stitching you do get black inserts........
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Originally Posted by jmartpr
If you spec deviated stitching you do get black inserts........
That's only for 18 way - carbon buckets get arctic gray or blue even with deviated stitching option. I'm trying to get black seat inserts via CXX, haven't received an answer yet.
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Old 05-25-2022, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by GT3NY
That's only for 18 way - carbon buckets get arctic gray or blue even with deviated stitching option. I'm trying to get black seat inserts via CXX, haven't received an answer yet.

Ohhh in that case they got to fix the description in the configurator.....so for buckets if you want factory you need to go CXX? I rather go P1 Design or other supplier unless you really need it to be spec from the factory.
Porsche has this little things that sometimes I don't get it, welll I do get it...more $$$$$$...it was like my Python green GT4 with deviated lizard green stitching/belts...everything got changed to lizard except the door pulls and in 2021 lizard door pulls were not an option, so needed to go via CXX.
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Originally Posted by aarodynamics
And are the increased track widths likely just from them adding camber via the lower control arm?
The new front fenders look like they could be slightly wider, so they could have achieved wider track with a different wheel offset. They can also change alignment with a different top hat (like the 991.2 GT3RS)
Old 05-25-2022, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by suterusu
The new front fenders look like they could be slightly wider, so they could have achieved wider track with a different wheel offset. They can also change alignment with a different top hat (like the 991.2 GT3RS)

981/718 GT4 and 718 GT4RS all share the same offsets and wheel specs......difference must be in some area of the suspension components.
Could be the wheel uprights as these are CL contrary to 5 bolts on the previous models. The difference is not that great so it could also just be shims on the LCA......
Old 05-25-2022, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by GT3NY
That's only for 18 way - carbon buckets get arctic gray or blue even with deviated stitching option. I'm trying to get black seat inserts via CXX, haven't received an answer yet.
It's so weird that we would have to go CXX to get a color that was standard for the GT4.

With my GT4, I think the cost was $8800 to do CXX customization (Porsche logo in headrest with orange inserts). They told me any mod on the seat is the same price regardless of how little or extensive it is.
Old 05-25-2022, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
GT4 production date is July, Hoping we can get to the Nuremberg Ring this year with it.

Irish Green PCCB leather.

Also have a Z06 coming next year and now this just popped up in my Porsche app.

PCCB? On a july build?
Most of us had to accept the regular brakes...


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