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Old 06-21-2018, 04:55 PM
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@GT Tree ... love the wheels on your Spyder ... which BBS ones are those ? what type of finish/color?
Old 06-22-2018, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Suicide Jockey
Car looks great! With the recent addition of the RS-30, you've made some very tasteful mods.
Thank you. I'm really considering those Carbon RS fenders as well.
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@GT Tree ... love the wheels on your Spyder ... which BBS ones are those ? what type of finish/color?
Thanks! These are the BBS FIR's in Platinum Silver. They are also in GT4 offsets and size (tires).
Old 06-22-2018, 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Zeus993
Insanely good cars! How does your buddy like his Carrera T? Lots of talk about this car...
Actually all 3 cars are mine....
I really like the Carrera T.
I had planned to do a write up comparison of the cars but I just havent had time yet.
But the one thing I can say is that for pure driving enjoyment, I have not found anything that compares to the 987 Spyder.....and I have owned many cars (GT4, (2) 996 GT3's, 997 GT3, (2)997 GT3RS's, 997 C2S, 987.1 Cayman S, 996 and 997 Cup cars, e90 M3, Macan Turbo, Cayenne turbo, 993 carrera, 986 Boxster S, another 987 Spyder that i regretted selling, 981 Cayman with 3.8 conversion, 996 C4, not in that order but just to get an idea of cars I have had). the 987 Spyder is simply unparalleled if you just want to go for a drive for the sensory experience. The Carrera T is a great car and it has its place. I have about 900 miles on the car in 3 weeks of ownership which is actually a lot for me on one car. It has many cool things about it and I enjoy it so far.
Old 06-22-2018, 06:58 AM
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Have you tried the 981 Spyder?
Old 06-22-2018, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by GT3 Nut
Actually all 3 cars are mine....
I really like the Carrera T.
I had planned to do a write up comparison of the cars but I just havent had time yet.
But the one thing I can say is that for pure driving enjoyment, I have not found anything that compares to the 987 Spyder.....and I have owned many cars (GT4, (2) 996 GT3's, 997 GT3, (2)997 GT3RS's, 997 C2S, 987.1 Cayman S, 996 and 997 Cup cars, e90 M3, Macan Turbo, Cayenne turbo, 993 carrera, 986 Boxster S, another 987 Spyder that i regretted selling, 981 Cayman with 3.8 conversion, 996 C4, not in that order but just to get an idea of cars I have had). the 987 Spyder is simply unparalleled if you just want to go for a drive for the sensory experience. The Carrera T is a great car and it has its place. I have about 900 miles on the car in 3 weeks of ownership which is actually a lot for me on one car. It has many cool things about it and I enjoy it so far.
Your conclusion matches mine although I haven’t driven the GT cars with exception to the 996 GT3. The 996 GT3 was my next favorite as far as actual driving immersion.
Old 06-22-2018, 12:08 PM
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[QUOTE=GT3 Nut;15095480]Actually all 3 cars are mine....
I really like the Carrera T.
I had planned to do a write up comparison of the cars but I just havent had time yet.
But the one thing I can say is that for pure driving enjoyment, I have not found anything that compares to the 987 Spyder.....and I have owned many cars (GT4, (2) 996 GT3's, 997 GT3, (2)997 GT3RS's, 997 C2S, 987.1 Cayman S, 996 and 997 Cup cars, e90 M3, Macan Turbo, Cayenne turbo, 993 carrera, 986 Boxster S, another 987 Spyder that i regretted selling, 981 Cayman with 3.8 conversion, 996 C4, not in that order but just to get an idea of cars I have had). the 987 Spyder is simply unparalleled if you just want to go for a drive for the experience. The Carrera T is a great car and it has its place. I have about 900 miles on the car in 3 weeks of ownership which is actually a lot for me on one car. It has many cool things about it and I enjoy it so far.[/QUOTE

Our perspective is the same given that I have nearly the same ownership experience and most recently a 991.1 GT3. If you haven't done so, you should definitely try a 981 Spyder if you have a chance. It's the most fun driving experience on the street that I've encountered! Love mine!
Old 06-22-2018, 01:39 PM
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Here's an opinion on my cars, as they are setup on STREET (ie canyons):

Spyder > 964 > 997 GT3RS > G series Carrera

Here's why: balance and good pace match with street, and the noise/experience.

My 997RS is pretty raw dog, and it's just too edgy really for the street but I love that car on the track, the balance and grip and noise and experience are near perfect for me
964 is close, but it's since and lack of power actually make it really enjoyable on the street
The spyder has amazing balance and good power delivery, and a suspension calibration that just seems "right"
The G, its just old, slow, heavy, and awesome. I love it, but for different reasons :-)
Old 06-22-2018, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Gravs
Have you tried the 981 Spyder?
I have not. I had a GT4 though. I realize its not the same but the steering feel and feedback I would suspect would be similar.
However, I honestly think I also like the look of the 987 spyder better... I dont particularly love the rounded windows and the top design of the 981 in comparison to the 987.
I do have a deposit on the first slot for a 982 Spyder though.....
Old 06-22-2018, 02:21 PM
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[QUOTE=NelsonF;15096033]
Originally Posted by GT3 Nut
Actually all 3 cars are mine....
I really like the Carrera T.
I had planned to do a write up comparison of the cars but I just havent had time yet.
But the one thing I can say is that for pure driving enjoyment, I have not found anything that compares to the 987 Spyder.....and I have owned many cars (GT4, (2) 996 GT3's, 997 GT3, (2)997 GT3RS's, 997 C2S, 987.1 Cayman S, 996 and 997 Cup cars, e90 M3, Macan Turbo, Cayenne turbo, 993 carrera, 986 Boxster S, another 987 Spyder that i regretted selling, 981 Cayman with 3.8 conversion, 996 C4, not in that order but just to get an idea of cars I have had). the 987 Spyder is simply unparalleled if you just want to go for a drive for the experience. The Carrera T is a great car and it has its place. I have about 900 miles on the car in 3 weeks of ownership which is actually a lot for me on one car. It has many cool things about it and I enjoy it so far.[/QUOTE

Our perspective is the same given that I have nearly the same ownership experience and most recently a 991.1 GT3. If you haven't done so, you should definitely try a 981 Spyder if you have a chance. It's the most fun driving experience on the street that I've encountered! Love mine!
Curious, did you also have a 987 Spyder?
Old 06-22-2018, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Spyerx
Here's an opinion on my cars, as they are setup on STREET (ie canyons):

Spyder > 964 > 997 GT3RS > G series Carrera

Here's why: balance and good pace match with street, and the noise/experience.

My 997RS is pretty raw dog, and it's just too edgy really for the street but I love that car on the track, the balance and grip and noise and experience are near perfect for me
964 is close, but it's since and lack of power actually make it really enjoyable on the street
The spyder has amazing balance and good power delivery, and a suspension calibration that just seems "right"
The G, its just old, slow, heavy, and awesome. I love it, but for different reasons :-)
I had a Carrera 3.2. I agree it felt heavy and slow. Drove my 69 911e today. That thing feels light and quick compared to the later G's, for some reason. Clearly it can't be quicker but it feels a lot lighter on its feet.

981 spyder best modern car on street I've driven.
Old 06-22-2018, 05:57 PM
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[QUOTE=GT3 Nut;15096334]
Originally Posted by NelsonF

Curious, did you also have a 987 Spyder?
No, never owned a 987, but owners seem to rave about them as well!
Old 06-22-2018, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jrtaylor9
I had a Carrera 3.2. I agree it felt heavy and slow. Drove my 69 911e today. That thing feels light and quick compared to the later G's, for some reason. Clearly it can't be quicker but it feels a lot lighter on its feet.
981 spyder best modern car on street I've driven.
I had a GT4 for 3mo, didn't love it. I feel it was trying to be a GT car and wasn't really a GT car, motor let me down, and chassis just didn't feel as great. Spyder has a balance, even tho essentially same motor it works in the Spyder, and steering feels alive and very direct, with a better balance for the canyons than the GT4. I know they are very similar cars but for me the package works on the spyder, it didn't work on the GT4. Now, if they do indeed put a GT motor derivative into the GT4 that could change my mind on the GT4. GT cars in my mind need a bit more edge to them and for me that is defined by the motor.

something the G body though, its just got this 80's rad thing going.
Old 06-22-2018, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Spyerx
Here's an opinion on my cars, as they are setup on STREET (ie canyons):

Spyder > 964 > 997 GT3RS > G series Carrera

Here's why: balance and good pace match with street, and the noise/experience.

My 997RS is pretty raw dog, and it's just too edgy really for the street but I love that car on the track, the balance and grip and noise and experience are near perfect for me
964 is close, but it's since and lack of power actually make it really enjoyable on the street
The spyder has amazing balance and good power delivery, and a suspension calibration that just seems "right"
The G, its just old, slow, heavy, and awesome. I love it, but for different reasons :-)
Can you talk more about the comparison of 964 to Spyder? Have the spyder and am thinking about adding the 964. My driving style is same as yours, street / canyons only, no track. Thanks!
Old 06-22-2018, 10:31 PM
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A well sorted and fully setup 964 will cost more than a spyder. You can see my build thread but mine is a bit more extreme. 964 stock is soft and boring. It’s too modern to get away like a g or Long hood can at being a bit soft. I feel same about 993.
But. Remove 3-400 lbs of crap. More aggressive seats. Completely replace the entire suspension. Great tires. Modern brake pads or full brakes like i have. Open up the exhaust. And you have a little canyon hot rod that hauls. Mine is really fun on track too.
Just know. To do all this right. Is not inexpensive.

Go go buy the one golfnutintib just posted. Try one out. Do you have or have you had an air cooled. They are awesome. But a different experience.
Old 06-23-2018, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Spyerx
A well sorted and fully setup 964 will cost more than a spyder. You can see my build thread but mine is a bit more extreme. 964 stock is soft and boring. It’s too modern to get away like a g or Long hood can at being a bit soft. I feel same about 993.
But. Remove 3-400 lbs of crap. More aggressive seats. Completely replace the entire suspension. Great tires. Modern brake pads or full brakes like i have. Open up the exhaust. And you have a little canyon hot rod that hauls. Mine is really fun on track too.
Just know. To do all this right. Is not inexpensive.

Go go buy the one golfnutintib just posted. Try one out. Do you have or have you had an air cooled. They are awesome. But a different experience.
Hmm, how close are you to driver quality 964rs territory by the time you do all this? Just curious.


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