HOT FOR SALE: Pick of the Week 991
#5987
Hey Rennlisters,
Just wanted to provide an update on my 911, which I picked up 2 months ago, in no small part thanks to STG and HFS.
A couple weeks ago I received the dreaded "Fault cooling system" error in the dash:
I was just cruising around downtown at the time so I didn't really understand why I should be having a cooling system issue. After a quick web search, I found these threads:
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/8792...tem-fault.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/836119-check-light.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/8002...-on-991-a.html
http://plenums.blogspot.com/2016/10/...-overview.html
Extra thanks to plenum and his blog page, which concisely outlines the change-over valve system in the 991. Based on my perusal of the data, I came to the conclusion of a failure of the COV responsible for turning my PSE on and off. I missed my snaps, crackles, and pops, that's for sure.
I scheduled an appointment with my local dealer, Porsche of San Diego. I'm happy to report that everything went as smoothly as could be. They replaced two COVs - with the latest "F" variant with new wiring harnesses - and now my snap crackle and pops are back .
My service writer at PSD was Kevin Schugar. He was very knowledgeable about the COV issue and kept me informed throughout the repair process.
They also provided me a Macan as a loaner. I am not really an SUV guy, but I was pleasantly surprised at how Porsche was able to make a 2-ton slab of metal with a high center of gravity feel nimble and agile. If you're in the market for something in this class, put the Macan on your shortlist.
After two months and even despite this COV failure, my 911 is a thing of joy to drive. I have even grown comfy with the multifunction wheel and the "backwards" shifter. Drive yours in good health!
Just wanted to provide an update on my 911, which I picked up 2 months ago, in no small part thanks to STG and HFS.
A couple weeks ago I received the dreaded "Fault cooling system" error in the dash:
I was just cruising around downtown at the time so I didn't really understand why I should be having a cooling system issue. After a quick web search, I found these threads:
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/8792...tem-fault.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/836119-check-light.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/8002...-on-991-a.html
http://plenums.blogspot.com/2016/10/...-overview.html
Extra thanks to plenum and his blog page, which concisely outlines the change-over valve system in the 991. Based on my perusal of the data, I came to the conclusion of a failure of the COV responsible for turning my PSE on and off. I missed my snaps, crackles, and pops, that's for sure.
I scheduled an appointment with my local dealer, Porsche of San Diego. I'm happy to report that everything went as smoothly as could be. They replaced two COVs - with the latest "F" variant with new wiring harnesses - and now my snap crackle and pops are back .
My service writer at PSD was Kevin Schugar. He was very knowledgeable about the COV issue and kept me informed throughout the repair process.
They also provided me a Macan as a loaner. I am not really an SUV guy, but I was pleasantly surprised at how Porsche was able to make a 2-ton slab of metal with a high center of gravity feel nimble and agile. If you're in the market for something in this class, put the Macan on your shortlist.
After two months and even despite this COV failure, my 911 is a thing of joy to drive. I have even grown comfy with the multifunction wheel and the "backwards" shifter. Drive yours in good health!
#5988
Race Director
Thread Starter
^^^ r00t61, thanks for sharing. Great write ups too.
I had my COV's proactively all changed on my 2012.5 C2S over a year ago at my expense when the car was in service. Overkill? Sure, but worth saving a trip and irritation if one goes out and wondering what it is or if not detected right away depending which one it is.
They are covered under warranty (if they fail) and aren't very expense if they go out of warranty.
By the way, here is a link to your great purchase story for the guys here. Glad to hear you're enjoying the 991 C4S!
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/9543...stitute-2.html
I had my COV's proactively all changed on my 2012.5 C2S over a year ago at my expense when the car was in service. Overkill? Sure, but worth saving a trip and irritation if one goes out and wondering what it is or if not detected right away depending which one it is.
They are covered under warranty (if they fail) and aren't very expense if they go out of warranty.
By the way, here is a link to your great purchase story for the guys here. Glad to hear you're enjoying the 991 C4S!
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/9543...stitute-2.html
Last edited by STG; 11-16-2016 at 09:16 AM.
#5989
Race Car
^^^ r00t61, thanks for sharing. Great write ups too.
I had my COV's proactively all changed on my 2012.5 C2S over a year ago at my expense when the car was in service. Overkill? Sure, but worth saving a trip and irritation if one goes out and wondering what it is or if not detected right away depending which one it is.
They are covered under warranty (if they fail) and aren't very expense if they go out of warranty.
By the way, here is a link to your great purchase story for the guys here. Glad to hear you're enjoying the 991 C4S!
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/9543...stitute-2.html
I had my COV's proactively all changed on my 2012.5 C2S over a year ago at my expense when the car was in service. Overkill? Sure, but worth saving a trip and irritation if one goes out and wondering what it is or if not detected right away depending which one it is.
They are covered under warranty (if they fail) and aren't very expense if they go out of warranty.
By the way, here is a link to your great purchase story for the guys here. Glad to hear you're enjoying the 991 C4S!
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/9543...stitute-2.html
Common enough issue in 991's - replaced under warranty, no problem.
With my current 991S, I have yet to have any problems, thankfully.
#5990
Race Director
Thread Starter
I was clueless to what the COV's (Change Over Valves / Solenoids) were before researching them. I'm a novice when it comes to mechanical stuff. They are just electronic switches pretty much. Word has it that there may have been moisture issues with the first batches causing failure (moisture getting into the plugs or harness). The new versions have new COV's and wiring harnesses. They also updated the versions as the years went on. 2014, 2015, 2016 ...
FYI
There are 6 for manual cars and no PSE.
Add one each if you have PDK and PSE which would be 7 or a grand total of 8.
I believe the X51 Powerkit may add another 2 as well.
Nothing really to get worried about, but reading the above links can be helpful knowing the symptoms so the problem can be easily diagnosed.
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/8002...n-991-a-2.html
http://plenums.blogspot.com/2016/10/...rview.html?m=1
FYI
There are 6 for manual cars and no PSE.
Add one each if you have PDK and PSE which would be 7 or a grand total of 8.
I believe the X51 Powerkit may add another 2 as well.
Nothing really to get worried about, but reading the above links can be helpful knowing the symptoms so the problem can be easily diagnosed.
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/8002...n-991-a-2.html
http://plenums.blogspot.com/2016/10/...rview.html?m=1
#5991
Race Car
I was clueless to what the COV's (Change Over Valves / Solenoids) were before researching them. I'm a novice when it comes to mechanical stuff. They are just electronic switches pretty much. Word has it that there may have been moisture issues with the first batches causing failure (moisture getting into the plugs or harness). The new versions have new COV's and wiring harnesses. They also updated the versions as the years went on. 2014, 2015, 2016 ...
FYI
There are 6 for manual cars and no PSE.
Add one each if you have PDK and PSE which would be 7 or a grand total of 8.
I believe the X51 Powerkit may add another 2 as well.
Nothing really to get worried about, but reading the above links can be helpful knowing the symptoms so the problem can be easily diagnosed.
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/8002...n-991-a-2.html
FYI
There are 6 for manual cars and no PSE.
Add one each if you have PDK and PSE which would be 7 or a grand total of 8.
I believe the X51 Powerkit may add another 2 as well.
Nothing really to get worried about, but reading the above links can be helpful knowing the symptoms so the problem can be easily diagnosed.
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/8002...n-991-a-2.html
#5994
Been following this thread forever and thought I would contribute.
This is a good looking cab that has been for sale for a while. Think the price is still a little high though.
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...ink=true&Log=0
This is a good looking cab that has been for sale for a while. Think the price is still a little high though.
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...ink=true&Log=0
#5995
Rennlist Member
Been following this thread forever and thought I would contribute.
This is a good looking cab that has been for sale for a while. Think the price is still a little high though.
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...ink=true&Log=0
This is a good looking cab that has been for sale for a while. Think the price is still a little high though.
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...ink=true&Log=0
#5996
Race Car
Been following this thread forever and thought I would contribute.
This is a good looking cab that has been for sale for a while. Think the price is still a little high though.
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...ink=true&Log=0
This is a good looking cab that has been for sale for a while. Think the price is still a little high though.
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...ink=true&Log=0
#5997
Been following this thread forever and thought I would contribute.
This is a good looking cab that has been for sale for a while. Think the price is still a little high though.
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...ink=true&Log=0
This is a good looking cab that has been for sale for a while. Think the price is still a little high though.
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...ink=true&Log=0
#5998
Race Director
Thread Starter
2015 C2S Aerokit Cup. Only 11K miles and $37K off MSRP. Could be a bit cheaper, but one to watch or start throwing offers at.
https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistor...AB2A93FS110190
http://www.machensford.com/used/Pors...earchDepth=1:2
https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistor...AB2A93FS110190
http://www.machensford.com/used/Pors...earchDepth=1:2
#5999
Race Director
Thread Starter
X51 POWERKIT !!!! Same as the GTS
Go get it boys. CPO too! Don't say I never did anything for you brothers! $55K off MSRP. Will NOT last long. Surprised if it's even still available.
Cars like this put HFS on the map
Manual
No sunroof
PDCC
SPASM
X51 (includes SC and PSE)!
NO PSP
https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistor...&partner=CCO_0
http://www.porscheoftysons.com/detai...-15704569.html
Go get it boys. CPO too! Don't say I never did anything for you brothers! $55K off MSRP. Will NOT last long. Surprised if it's even still available.
Cars like this put HFS on the map
Manual
No sunroof
PDCC
SPASM
X51 (includes SC and PSE)!
NO PSP
https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistor...&partner=CCO_0
http://www.porscheoftysons.com/detai...-15704569.html
Last edited by STG; 11-17-2016 at 09:46 PM.
#6000
Race Car
X51 POWERKIT !!!! Same as the GTS
Go get it boys. CPO too! Don't say I never did anything for you brothers! $55K off MSRP. Will NOT last long. Surprised if it's even still available.
Cars like this put HFS on the map
Manual
No sunroof
PDCC
SPASM
X51 (includes SC and PSE)!
https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistor...&partner=CCO_0
http://www.porscheoftysons.com/detai...-15704569.html
Go get it boys. CPO too! Don't say I never did anything for you brothers! $55K off MSRP. Will NOT last long. Surprised if it's even still available.
Cars like this put HFS on the map
Manual
No sunroof
PDCC
SPASM
X51 (includes SC and PSE)!
https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistor...&partner=CCO_0
http://www.porscheoftysons.com/detai...-15704569.html